You waffle so bad in your arguement you should be in the International House of Pancakes selling them. Pink Elephants don't exist, but if they did, they are why my flowers are trampled.
Damn Pink Elephants they are to blame.
greeney2 wrote:Show me facts and figures to proove your point about atheist charities, becasue one on the top of your list did have financial figures, showing current donations of a whopping $34,000 dollars. I looked their websites up! One of the others did have a large staff but no facts or figures, other than claiming they had euros for grants you could appply for. Nothing like food and medicine airlifts I could find. but still atheist organizations combined, was very small in any comparison.
Your claim was that there were no atheist charities or groups out there doing good, my claim was that there are, and the link I gave you proved that.
I'm really not sure what you expect me to be able to provide, a detailed rundown of every atheist who ever gave money to charity? You're really trying to cheapen the idea of goodwill by putting a number on it and it's pretty sick.
greeney2 wrote:I'm not making this a competion, and any help or giving should not be regarded as dismal, however for a group who claims God is the cause of such suffering in the world, I would expect something much more.
Like I said, atheist and freethinkers are not in the habit of joining groups, they do their work individually. Warren Buffet and Bill Gates are unbelievers who have given an obscene amount of money to charitable causes, for a start.
You clearly are trying to make this a competition because your initial claim about atheists was clearly false.
greeney2 wrote:Believers do not have a hard time at all explaining evil. Evil exists in the world in many forms, and it has to do with God giving you and everyone free will.
The problem of evil is
an issue for many believers, the pastor included.
greeney2 wrote:You talk about free thinking, that is nothing unique to athiests, its just part of your ego insisting how right you are, and only you are capable of free thinking. We all have free will, to act and think, or to be decieved by the evil of the world. My point with the Pastors kindness as a person was obvious in your video, he was not on a mission to drag anyone else down, or influence his congregation away from God. He may have lost his Faith, but still had a heart of a good person. You could not say the same thing about Dawkins, yourself, or EH, who all bragg about, if you were able to take someones Faith away. What forces are in play to hurt otherwise secure and content people, who belief and worship God, and live everyday according to their Faith?
I doubt you know anything about Dawkins, his private life is personal and neither you nor I have any idea what he may or may not have contributed to charitable causes.
Here is some good Dawkins has done you are obviously not aware of, again, took me 2 seconds on google:http://givingaid.richarddawkins.net/http://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity ... rd-dawkins
"All of our behavior can be traced to biological events about which we have no conscious knowledge: this has always suggested that free will is an illusion."
- Sam Harris