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Postby blackvault » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:17 am

Hello everyone,

I apologize if this was posted somewhere else... but had to comment. This is one of the best political gaffes I have seen next to Joe Biden's idiotic comments and statements.

I hope that Rick Perry bows out and quits now vs. later. He is a disgrace to even be considered for President of the United States, and has no chance anyway.

I laughed pretty hard on his lame attempt to cover up his stupidity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6an4zSj8LhU
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Postby zoltan2 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:31 am

What a joke.
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Postby greeney2 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:28 am

TEvery polititians nightmare, making yourself look totally foolish. The will haunt him, and be used against him, like the Katy Curic/ Sarah Palin first interview. They still use that against her. Anyone can get tounge tied but is that what happened, or was he shooting from the hip trying to sound effective? I'm guessing he was just blowing smoke, that he has no such immediate plan.

If he runs out of gas in from on a few candidates, what might happen in real dealings with foriegn countries?

One gaffe I think may have been even worse, since this was in the spirit of spontaneous debate was when Bush Sr. made a speach on September 7th, being the Day of Infamy, referring to Pearl Harbor. That was a prepared speach, not a debate, talk about blunder.

One by one, the runners are getting picked off, this may have picked off Perry while Cain may be about to go from damage control to crash and burn.
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Postby blackvault » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:12 am

Cain crash and burn?

Not a chance, at least, not quickly anyway. I think the American people are connecting with him... and although Romney may or may not be the front runner in the polls... if those are even accurate.. Cain is doing quite well.

Check out how he responded to last nights question, and the audience reaction. Love him or hate him... he nailed it perfectly and the audience was ALL OVER IT.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... claim.html
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Postby greeney2 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:16 pm

They will be watching him very close John, unfortunatly many will believe these people coming forward. Regardless if he is 100% innocent, this will damage him. Thats what they count on. Digging up dirt, seems to be the only tool in our elections anymore.
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Postby bionic » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:22 am

I saw that on the news today..
insanity
I want to know what kind of people are willing to officially go into public life these days?
(knowing that really, we are ALL in public life these days)


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Postby greeney2 » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:56 am

Strike 3, you're out for Perry IMHO. If everything else wasn't enough, doing the Letterman top 10 finished him IMHO. Made himself look like a stooge, and Letterman couldn't even look at him as he shook hands dismissing him off stage. Nice he could laugh at himself, but this is not a President, looking like a total fool.

Cain, if his problems were not enough, made a poor choice of calling Polosi a name, as well as being caught in some kind of conversation about Anita Hill. He looks and sounds like a Presidental hopeful, but he has to get rid of the stupid hat he wears. He isn't gaining many points from the female voters.
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Postby blackvault » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:57 pm

From the below article, "Cain has lost support among women since last month - from 28 percent in October to 15 percent now."

So yes, you're right he has lost some ground with female voters this early in the controversy, but overall, he still tops his nearest rivals.

It's an interesting game thus far... I am interested to see what the coming weeks and months will show....

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Poll: Cain tops 3-way race with Romney, Gingrich

CBS News Poll analysis by the CBS News Polling Unit: Sarah Dutton, Jennifer De Pinto, Fred Backus and Anthony Salvanto.

In the Republican race for the presidential nomination, Newt Gingrich's support continues to slowly grow, and he is now tied with Mitt Romney for second place, while Herman Cain just edges both of them out for the top spot. Both Cain and Romney have lost support since late October.

In a new CBS News Poll, 61 percent of Republican primary voters say the sexual harassment accusations against Cain won't make any difference in their vote, but 30 percent say the charges make them less likely to back him, and that rises to 38 percent among women. Cain has lost support among women since last month - from 28 percent in October to 15 percent now. He has lost ground with conservatives and Tea Party supporters as well.

But the race could still change; seven in 10 Republican primary voters say it is still too early to say for sure which candidate they will support.

The field of Republican candidates now has three candidates within striking distance of each other at the top of the list: with 18 percent, Herman Cain is in the top spot, followed by Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich with 15% each. Support for both Cain and Romney has declined since late last month, and Gingrich is the only one of the top three whose support is steadily - if slowly - on the upswing.

Cain has lost support among women since late October. Then, he led among women, garnering 28 percent of their support. Now, his support among women is just 15 percent. He has also lost ground with conservatives, from 30 percent to 23 percent now. And there has been some movement among Tea Party supporters as well; their support for Cain has declined from 32 percent to 19 percent. Romney has lost support among men, while Gingrich's support among that group has increased eight points.

Six in 10 Republican primary voters say the charges of sexual harassment against Cain make no difference to their vote. Still, 30 percent say the charges make them less likely to support him.

Of self-identified Tea Party supporters 71 percent say the allegations make no difference, as do 67 percent of conservatives. This poll was being conducted as new, and more specific, allegations arose against Cain.

Among women, 38 percent say they are less likely to support Cain because of the allegations against him. Fifty-seven percent say that will make no difference in their vote. Just 23 percent of men say they are less likely to vote for Cain because of the harassment allegations.

Voters, overall, are following the story. Most say they have heard something about the harassment allegations, including 59 percent of Republican primary voters who have heard a lot.

Among Republican voters who have heard or read a lot about it, a majority still says the allegations won't impact their vote.
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Postby gudskepteacal » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:56 pm

Gee that's pretty harsh there BV; can a guy get a Mulligan or something? :oops: On behalf of my dear Gub'ner, you know we have a history of 'steppin' in it' sometimes here in Texas (I've done it here at theblackvault once; or twice :think: ) but I still take him over that slicked-down, overrated, flip-flopping, DUDE Romney. Heck I bet he can't even bait a hook or skin supper. :snooty:
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Postby blackvault » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:10 pm

Not harsh... just an opinion. This latest blunder, to me, is just one of many examples of why he should not run for President of the United States.

He may be a great governor... for that I don't have enough insight to make an opinion. But to be at the level of the President... he has a long way to go before he starts to show it.

Just my one cent worth...
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