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Postby Jaack » Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:27 pm

http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/153 ... 19.article

Weather Channel Creator: Global Warming Greatest Scam in History

Ex-WLS weatherman calls warming 'greatest scam in history'
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April 18, 2009

John Coleman is best known in Chicago for being a popular part of WLS Channel 7's Eyewitness News Team from the late 1960s through the 1970s. He would later serve as the weatherman on "Good Morning America" and create the Weather Channel.

But in some circles, Coleman is known for challenging the idea of global warming, calling it "the greatest scam in history.''

"It is a hoax. It is bad science. It is hijacking public policy,'' says Coleman, now a forecaster in San Diego.

At a recent congressional subcommittee hearing on the "Impacts of Climate Change on America's National Parks" held at Twentynine Palms, Calif., near Joshua Tree, Coleman testified that "these scientists know that if they do research and the results are in no way alarming, their research will gather dust on the shelf and their research careers will languish."

Coleman says the global warming movement was sparked by scientist Roger Revelle, who was seeking increased funding for the Scripps Institute of Oceanography.

"Other researchers with environmental motivations and a hunger for funding saw this developing and climbed aboard as well. The research grants flowed and alarming hypotheses began to show up everywhere,'' Coleman says on his Web site -- www.kusi.com/weather /colemanscorner.

At the hearing, Coleman said activities of man do alter the weather and climate, but not significantly.

"People with the anti-fossil fuel agenda [have] jumped on the global warming bandwagon and just won't let go,'' Coleman said.

Committee chairman Rep. Raul M. Grijalva (D-Ariz.) shrugged over Coleman's testimony.

"You've got to hear the other side of this argument, no matter how overwhelming the evidence is to the contrary," Grijalva said.
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Postby pandasex » Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:53 pm

my husband and i go through this one at least once a month :lol:

we really dont have enough data to say its global warming or a natural cycle.

NOW, here is where it gets messy. What is the problem with still going green. Using wind and solar, being more responsible with our resources now? Why do we need a shortage or extinction of oil and natural gas. Why can we evolve and move forward?
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Postby gangstalking » Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:34 am

This is not getting a lot of media attention. It's too bad. Think of the taxes they will be charging people due to this.
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Postby Jaack » Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:58 am

pandasex wrote:NOW, here is where it gets messy. What is the problem with still going green. Using wind and solar, being more responsible with our resources now? Why do we need a shortage or extinction of oil and natural gas. Why can we evolve and move forward?


The problems is that "green" technology is being forced upon the market. It's unproven and in many cases, such as cars making them pollutes more than the regular cars. This is due to all the metals used in the batteries etc.

If we needed "green" power production they would appear normally through the market like oil and coal happened normally through market forces.
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Postby pandasex » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:23 pm

[quote="Jaack"][quote="pandasex"]
NOW, here is where it gets messy. What is the problem with still going green. Using wind and solar, being more responsible with our resources now? Why do we need a shortage or extinction of oil and natural gas. Why can we evolve and move forward?[/quote]

The problems is that "green" technology is being forced upon the market. It's unproven and in many cases, such as cars making them pollutes more than the regular cars. This is due to all the metals used in the batteries etc.

If we needed "green" power production they would appear normally through the market like oil and coal happened normally through market forces.[/quote]



i think if it was as u say forced on the market a lot of kinks that are there right now as u were saying would be worked out a lot faster. You never mentioned what i was talking about which was solar and wind , water. Do u agree with that?
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Postby Jaack » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:49 pm

No not with either.

Wind requires regular power plants and is wholly inefficient.

Solar is the same the cost of making the cells for the power returned is out of whack and will remain so for years to come.

Plus solar still requires normal power plants to operate.

There is not panacea. We are not running out of oil. Is there less than when we started well sure. Have we found all of it yet, NOPE.
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Postby pandasex » Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:27 pm

i dont know what crap news station u have been watching (are u a glenn beck fan)...but pleanty of countries like (Im even hooking u up with info here as proof)

Denmark - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_Denmark

spain- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_Spain

japan - http://www.solarbuzz.com/FastFactsJapan.htm


Germany -http://www.solarbuzz.com/FastFactsGermany.htm


i can go all day friend
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Postby pandasex » Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:31 pm

one more point

we are starting to look like we are in the dark ages while countries (usually americans make fun of) are ahead in thinking??? come on you should be on board just because we are starting to look stupid.
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Postby Jaack » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm

No I'm not on board.

ID GIVE A F what some lame ass people in some dank ass countries think of the USA. The only reason they have any type of wind or solar power is massive tax incentives NOT becuase the systems are better or more efficient.

The have to implement tax breaks to make the systems comparable in price to coal, oil and nat gas plants. It's all an illusion, and they're fooling you.
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Postby pandasex » Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:55 pm

yeah............ i can see this isnt going to go anywhere so......i guess we can move on to arguing over something else we wont budge on :ugeek:
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