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Postby zoltan2 » Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:49 pm

DO YOU REALLY WANT THE TRUTH ???



ALL THIS WAS DONE BY THE US GOVERNMENT WITH THE ORDER OF THE ELDERS OF THE ZIONIST JEWS i.e. ISRAEL & AMERICAN JEWS TO



1. PROTECT ISRAEL - US SETS UP BASES IN EVERY COUNTRY OF THE MIDDLE EAST

2. TO CONTROL THE OIL & MONEY OF THOSE MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES (ECONOMIES).

3. TO DEMAND PAYMENT FOR PROTECTION AND GET MONEY FOR INVASION OF IRAQ, LIBYA, ETC ETC.

4. TO EVENTUALLY ALLOW THE JEWS TO INVADE FROM THE NILE TO THE EUPHRATES AND SOUTHWARD TO MADINA.

5. PAKISTAN, IRAN AND SYRIA ARE THE ONLY OBSTACLES LEFT IN THE GENOCIDAL PATH OF THE ZIONISTS.





TOTAL PROOF ABOUT 9/11 BEING USA GOVERNMENTS WORK AND MEDIA WAS QUIET



The Media was told to keep quiet as it was a US Government inside job. They used this to invade Iraq and Afghanistan and will continue to Kill Muslims worldwide who put up resistance. Innocent civilians , women and children killed without any Accountability. For a Job that Bush Administration did. There were over 3,000 Israeli Jewish workers working in the Twin Towers according to the Jerusalem Post, but surprisingly Only 5 Israeli workers showed up for work the rest were on "Leave".



See these URL's below and TOTAL PROOF that US Governement was Involved.



I wonder what Bush/Dick Cheney/Condalizza Rice/Nancy Pescoli will answer to the Parents/Relatives of the Dead American Service men and women ?. As this is clearly for ZIONISM, OIL and MONEY.



9/11: Total Proof That Bombs Were Planted In The Buildings!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw#





9/11 TWIN TOWERS Original Video and Sound ANDRES BARRILA



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qddt-_zu ... e=related#





9/11 INSIDE WTC Before collapse





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-RlKF1B ... re=related





9/11 twin towers crash footage



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqG ... re=related





Evidence that George W. Bush had advanced knowledge of 9-11



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlWSv0NZBRw



Bush Caught Lying About September 11th



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm73wOuP ... re=related



9/11 Coincidences (Part One)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odp1FO0V ... re=related



9/11 Coincidences (Part Two)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7BSt9jh ... re=related



9/11 Coincidences (Part Three)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd8B-8Au ... re=related





9/11 Coincidences (Part Four)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rQ8_Qy0 ... re=related



9/11 Coincidences (Part Five) -> IMPT



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3JmXQ-z ... re=related





9/11 Coincidences (Part Six)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em_XyTeN ... re=related



George W. Bush caught off guard 9-11 Question



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCvqXXnx ... e=related#



9/11 - strange facts IMPORTANT



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeybdEuf ... re=related





9/11 WTC - Video Not Shown In Europe Or USA



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeAwSAEX ... re=related





9/11 Audio tape of call from World Trade Center 9/11



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QsdUevU ... re=related





9/11 INSIDE WTC Before collapse





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-RlKF1B ... re=related



9/11 See The Bush Administration Commit Treason



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6KbUpGN ... re=related





Bush admits that Iraq Had Nothing To Do With 9/11



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_A77N5W ... re=related



BANNED Pres. Bush Interview



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fze2J2Ve ... re=related





If You're an American you should see THIS! for real



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiUDKI0p ... re=related





Bush Administration Caught Contradicting Itself 6 Times



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz-6A59q ... re=related



Former CIA Official Exposes Bush Administration Fraud



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a3Bfox0 ... re=related



9/11 Bush Wanted For Treason,Terrorism and Murder



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WULx2Nkj ... re=related





Bush Speech



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjmLE7paJU8&NR=1


My Morning Show: Unheard Voices of 9/11 (September 11 Special)

California State Assembly Member Paul Fong organized a community hearing to discuss and learn about the impact of 9/11 on the Muslim, Arab, Sikh, and South Asian communities. The sponsoring organizations included The Sikh Coalition, The California Asian Pacific Legislative Caucus and the California Commission on Asian and Pacific Islander American Affairs. WBT-TV covered the event for My Morning Show and brings you highlights from this event. Some of the speakers included:

* Congressman Michael Honda
* Assembly Member Paul Fong
* San Jose Council Member Ash Kalra
* Commissioner Nitasha Sawhney, California Commission on
Asian and Pacific Islander American Affairs
* Veena Dubal, Staff Attorney, Asian Law Caucus
* Amardeep Singh, Program Director, Sikh Coalition
* Zahra Billoo,Executive Director, Council on American Islamic Relations - SFBA

Watch it at: http://www.WBT-TV.net
Wide Angle Zoom: 9-11 Special Program

Faraz Syed talks to Farrukh Shah Khan, Bay Area Pakistani and Muslim community leader who experienced mental trauma and guilt by association, after watching events of September 11, 2001 on TV along with media's and US Government officials' blanket statements putting suspicion on all American-Muslims. Afterwards, Faraz talked with Journalist Ali Hasan Cemendtaur, analyzing the facts surrounding the events of September 11, 10 years ago. 9-11 Commission report was discussed along with media reports of that world historic event.

Watch it at: http://www.WBT-TV.net
Conversations with Maryam: 9-11 Special

Maryam Turab talks to Lubna Jahangiri and Mae Adkins, two lawyers from two different backgrounds, saw 9-11 events taking place on TV and had profound experiences after those events. Watch how two lawyers graduating and starting their careers after 9-11 experience life changing events in America.

Watch it at: http://www.WBT-TV.net

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Postby greeney2 » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:49 pm

You claim to want the truth, but I'm willing to bet the farm you have not read any of what you post. You are just copy and pasted anything you see regardless of content.
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Postby zoltan2 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:58 am

greeney2 wrote:You claim to want the truth, but I'm willing to bet the farm you have not read any of what you post. You are just copy and pasted anything you see regardless of content.


I do read it. I think your just too afraid to face facts.
Maybe I am rocking your comfort zone.
The reason I am posting this is that you and others can see various views of what was said back then and till today.
Experts more qualified than you or I are debating this and want to know the truth.
I choose the content to posts.
However you have the right to agree or disagree.

At least please take the time to watch this video below.
Its one of the best with Engineers, architects , and physicists with PHDs and Master degrees.
This a professional video with people who have created and built skyscrapers and all kinds of other buildings.

911 Experts Speak Out

Video

Are All Of These Architects and Engineers Wrong? I do not think so

http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e29088.htm
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Postby zoltan2 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:42 am

BANNED FROM CNN Flight 93 eyewitness admits not seeing dead bodies [D]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It5JC45KMGo&NR=1
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Postby zoltan2 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:50 am

zoltan2 wrote:BANNED FROM CNN Flight 93 eyewitness admits not seeing dead bodies [D]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It5JC45KMGo&NR=1



Where is UA 93 and it's Passengers?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIFZ980zafY&NR=1

Flight 93 Eyewitness Sees A Second Plane, Says Flight 93 Was Shot Down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIFZ980zafY&NR=1
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Postby greeney2 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:25 am

We have beaten the same dead horse, so many times here its just inventing the wheel over and over. None of this is new, same unproven things we have seen for 10 years. Maybe you can't face the facts the building fell for the very reasons proven, by other experts.
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Postby zoltan2 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:04 pm

greeney2 wrote:We have beaten the same dead horse, so many times here its just inventing the wheel over and over. None of this is new, same unproven things we have seen for 10 years. Maybe you can't face the facts the building fell for the very reasons proven, by other experts.


Time will prove me right. I am sorry but you are in denial


For anyone who has used the terms "nuts" or "conspiracy theorists" when describing informed Americans who are demanding a new 9/11 investigation, you'd better buckle up and watch this. Because those informed Americans know exactly what they are talking about - and it looks like the 9/11 "official" house of cards is getting very, very top heavy. Watch author Ali Soufan's 9/11 information first, then Senator Graham's.]


Former Sen. Bob Graham calls for new 9/11 investigation

Posted on 09.12.11
By Eric W. Dolan


Former Democratic Senator Bob Graham on Monday called on the U.S. government to reopen its investigation into 9/11 after a report found that links between Saudi Arabia and the hijackers were never disclosed by the FBI to the 2002 joint Congressional intelligence committee investigating the attacks.

“In the final report of the congressional inquiry, there was a chapter related primarily to the Saudi role in 9/11 that was totally censored, every word of the chapter has been withheld from the public,” Graham said on MSNBC’s The Dylan Ratigan Show.

“Some of the other questions we ought to be asking are if we know that the Saudis who lived in San Diego and now apparently in Sarasota received substantial assistance, what about the Saudis who lived in Phoenix, Arizona? Or Arlington, Virginia? … What was happening in those places?”

“I believe these are questions for which there are definitive answers, but the American people and largely their elected representatives have been denied that information.”

Watch video, courtesy of MSNBC, below:

http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/ ... stigation/


A Call to Reopen the 9/11 Investigation - CFE Pt. 1 of 25

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RhSuxyjajU
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Postby greeney2 » Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:27 pm

No I am not in denial, you have no proof of anything. I know the standard of what is and is not a conclusive root cause of a mechanical failure. I delt and served on many failure analysis boards for failures of many kinds of metals, particually in welding, and included a 2 year standown of the Challenger, and of the Columbia losses. I did not just get off the turnip truck, I know what makes steel fail, and it does not have to melt in order to fail. All of you theories talk in terms of steel melting, and none of it talks about heat treating issues, time and temperature curves, or the iron carbon diagram. steel can fail at temperatures far below the melting point of 2800degrees. The official engineering conclusion of how and why the WTC collapsed makes prefect sence, and how it fell answers all the questions of WHY. If your archetechs and engineers had a conclusive study, it would be backed up by a complete explanation of how it was done.

I am not it denial, you are in a dream world where unanserered questions mean proof to you. A complete root casue can establish each and every step within a failure.
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Postby zoltan2 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:25 am

greeney2 wrote:No I am not in denial, you have no proof of anything. I know the standard of what is and is not a conclusive root cause of a mechanical failure. I delt and served on many failure analysis boards for failures of many kinds of metals, particually in welding, and included a 2 year standown of the Challenger, and of the Columbia losses. I did not just get off the turnip truck, I know what makes steel fail, and it does not have to melt in order to fail. All of you theories talk in terms of steel melting, and none of it talks about heat treating issues, time and temperature curves, or the iron carbon diagram. steel can fail at temperatures far below the melting point of 2800degrees. The official engineering conclusion of how and why the WTC collapsed makes prefect sence, and how it fell answers all the questions of WHY. If your archetechs and engineers had a conclusive study, it would be backed up by a complete explanation of how it was done.

I am not it denial, you are in a dream world where unanserered questions mean proof to you. A complete root casue can establish each and every step within a failure.


I respect your decision to think as you wish even if I do not agree.
Why have a forum board and a post about Government and Political Conspiracies if one cannot bring others or his opinions without being criticize of being anti American or anti christian.
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Postby greeney2 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:00 am

Did you expect when you post a barage of lies, one after another about someones country, they will not defend it? Opinions, reading between the lines, inferences, or comments taken out of context, phony pictures, etc. You pose a question, but fail to debate the common sense explanations with them. Too many people will just say, "These things must be true" which is who you want, and for those who question them like me, "Brand their ability to reason". Its an old pattern around here, and I;m used to it.

Don't say you didn't take personal attacks on me, you told me I was in denial, like I was stupid. Your arrogant dismissal of my opinion is what you did, while you fail to answer specific questions. Just another barage of new links.

To be perfectly honest, This is another subject, like the moon hoax and Gore election, that are so worn out, its just old. Maybe its new to many people, but to me its all been debated, and disproven for a long time, BY EXPERTS NOT ME. Most important, none of these conspiracy theories from Themite to "Bush did it", have ever been proven. So New evidence is never ending, the never ending crap you have not seen, never ending anti-american propaganda.

Now in regards to the Pentagon, the "lone missile" suddenly becomes "in addition" to an airliner hitting. For years, its been known in broad daylight and airplane was tracked, and seen by people on the ground fling into it. But this rididulas theory blossomed from an instant of survalence video, that was normal speed not high speed that could see a bullet. Experts were convinced only a missile hit, but no explanation what happened to an airplane and all the people in it, if it never hit the Pentagon. Suddenly a new video, and from the air no less emerges, a blurry streak, and pictures of a small hole nobody has ever seen before. It never ends.
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