The Black Vault

I guess you would know.

pride and prejudice

In my case (me, me, me) I can own up to, at least, on occasion, being pretty self absorbed.
In that more, delusional psycholgically narcistic way. I can sometimes fall into that and have to give myself a pep talk.
But that might have more to do with paranoia.

I can alos be introverted at times which semi falls undedr mild narcism, I'd think.

But, I believe, officially, by the book, a full blown narcissist is suppose to be consciously unaware of it..or more..unadmitting of it..owning it out loud, so to speak (though, maybe aware unconsciously, sorta sublimally)

I have read that if you are in a relationship with a full blown narcissist that it could actually be dangerous to call them out on it..that when confronted with it..they can go blotto.
A geniune, full blown narcissist is also a psychopath. (according to the books I've read)

I went through a phaze in which I bought many a book on narcism. (it's brought up a-lot on message boards having to do with being the vicitm of a mate's infidelity, as you can imagine)

I believe we all have ebbs and flows when it comes to narcism..some more than others

I think we see others and ourselves in certain images,
as all our experiences change, should we let those
images remain, things get blown way out of proportion.
We lose sight of the truth and as new images come
we are reluctant, giving fuel to the fire of the old and many
times things will then blow up in our face for us to take
a closer look at ourselves. Live, Learn, grow and move
with the flow.

I went through a phaze in which I bought many a book on narcism. (it's brought up a-lot on message boards having to do with being the victim of a mate's infidelity, as you can imagine)

I imagine after a mates infidelity it would become very trying
to allow the feelings and images of the experience to morph
back into love for yourself and others, and in truth I think the
only way that is done is by letting parts of yourself go with it.
And should it, and yet the other unwilling to change what
they imagine, it becomes a battle of should I stay or should I go.

Many times people become victims by believing that
they cannot escape the truth of themselves no matter
where they go or who they are with or where they are,
that the reflections are always the truth of themselves
under any circumstances. Narsissim has alot to do with
overestimation of ones appearances, however in the truth,
many times it is an underestimation of who we truly are.

Very loving people are subject to many things.
Mates for very loving people most often have
short circuits, love is the truth, at times
we can drive out not the best in others, but
very much the worst to make room for more.
More of our love.

I don't know how many people I see out there in relationships
that are kind loving gentile people, they meet someone think
things will remain in a certain image and all of a sudden
everything is a wreck. I'm not laughing to be rude.
But I have no mistake that is how innocent and yet simply
destructive love can be.

I help people with these things all the time.

If you should be such a kind loving person, it is not
always good for others that you should be kind
and loving. In a sense that is all that
we are, appearances does not change love,
love changes appearances. As we grow,
we learn that at times to be angry, to be sad,
to be happy, to be disappointed, hurt,
is no less or more than another in our
ability to love ourselves or others. New life
is always given to these things, new meanings,
new cause and effects.
Where is the balance in these things.
Where is responsibility for ourselves in the truth
of who we are and our relations.



In truth we are all narcissists.


Just some side notes there, as I think there is alot
more that you have learned from your experiences
that you could share and I will look forward to sometime
hearing more about them. To also learn from them.
Let some of that stuff out, the deep and ugly.
Worst it can do is help us all.

At first I thought the last line was "the worst can help us all" meaning that our worst experiences can help us all. Seems to fit well with what we're discussing.

From the former president of Egypt (who wanted to keep running things while knowing many people would die in the process) to the pizza delivery guy (hey man, I gave you 2 bucks when others don't give you anything, so don't act like I owe you a paycheck). These are things that can be attributed to most people in general (selfishness/self-importance/self-righteousness/self-centeredness) throughout history. Of course, everyone has one or more of these traits to a certain extent, because of natural human survival instincts ("healthy narcissism").

It just seems to me that the world is breeding unhealthy narcissists at an exponential rate. Maybe I'm just overanalyzing, or maybe it's because I'm a cynic, or maybe it's because of the mis/dis-information highway called the "Internet" that has people going berserk and thinking they know it all, which is getting people's head's swelled-up.

Or perhaps there's always been this many narcissists...it's just that now we have access to hearing them all.

at1with0 wrote:I guess you would know.

Yeah I knew you'd eventually play that cheap card...sooner than expected though.

You should really try to stop being so transparent -- it makes you dull.

oh noes event horizon thinks I'm dull my life is over

at1with0 wrote:oh noes event horizon thinks I'm dull my life is over

Sarcastic narcissism at its best.

I am jack's complete lack of surprise.

at1with0 wrote::clap:
I am jack's complete lack of surprise.

And the truth finally comes out. You know what they say about that....it will "set you free".


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