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Postby at1with0 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:01 am

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v464/n7291/full/nature09008.html


Here, inspired by earlier work on non-locality-based and device-independent quantum information processing, we show that the non-local correlations of entangled quantum particles can be used to certify the presence of genuine randomness.




Unfortunately, the full article isn't free..here is the abstract:

Randomness is a fundamental feature of nature and a valuable resource for applications ranging from cryptography and gambling to numerical simulation of physical and biological systems. Random numbers, however, are difficult to characterize mathematically1, and their generation must rely on an unpredictable physical process2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Inaccuracies in the theoretical modelling of such processes or failures of the devices, possibly due to adversarial attacks, limit the reliability of random number generators in ways that are difficult to control and detect. Here, inspired by earlier work on non-locality-based7, 8, 9 and device-independent10, 11, 12, 13, 14 quantum information processing, we show that the non-local correlations of entangled quantum particles can be used to certify the presence of genuine randomness. It is thereby possible to design a cryptographically secure random number generator that does not require any assumption about the internal working of the device. Such a strong form of randomness generation is impossible classically and possible in quantum systems only if certified by a Bell inequality violation15. We carry out a proof-of-concept demonstration of this proposal in a system of two entangled atoms separated by approximately one metre. The observed Bell inequality violation, featuring near perfect detection efficiency, guarantees that 42 new random numbers are generated with 99 per cent confidence. Our results lay the groundwork for future device-independent quantum information experiments and for addressing fundamental issues raised by the intrinsic randomness of quantum theory.
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Postby khanster » Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:23 pm

We live in a pixelated reality simulation.

Hopefully it is a naturally created fractal simulation and the multiverse is not a program running on God's lap-top computer :shock:

Can fractals generate all of mathematics?

Why does the Fibonacci Sequence and the Golden Ratio appear throughout the Universe at all scales, from the formation of galaxies to the structure of DNA?

Randomness appears to be the descriptive complexity of a data structure such, that description of the structure takes more bits of information than what appears to be contained in the structure itself.

In that respect, we live in a random world due to the inability for humans to create a description of reality that is perfectly isomorphic with reality.


An interesting way to generate random numbers?

http://www.random.org/integers/


"This form allows you to generate random integers. The randomness comes from atmospheric noise, which for many purposes is better than the pseudo-random number algorithms typically used in computer programs."
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Postby at1with0 » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:20 pm

You sound like someone I know.
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Postby khanster » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:45 pm

at1with0 wrote:You sound like someone I know.



I am the mighty Khan. A multiverse traveler extraordinaire :D

Hopefully Malai5 will share his multiverse wisdom :ugeek:
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Postby at1with0 » Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:20 pm

Yeah I did when I said we're all a bunch of clowns. :lol: :lol:
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Postby at1with0 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:16 am

nerd.

lmao

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Postby bionic » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:11 pm

I think God 'plays dice'
seems there has to be a little randomness in order to keep things in motion, right..otherwise things would eventually 'settle'..and stagnate..soemthing like that must be writtne into the basci programming of our reality..just to keep it in continual motion..I'd think
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Postby at1with0 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:23 pm

Even if things are a bit or a lot random, the law of large numbers and other examples would show some stability. Like heads coming up and tails coming up with a ratio that is closer to 1/2 the more flips you do.
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Postby khanster » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:11 am

at1with0 wrote:Even if things are a bit or a lot random, the law of large numbers and other examples would show some stability. Like heads coming up and tails coming up with a ratio that is closer to 1/2 the more flips you do.


Symmetry forms the basis of randomness
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