The Black Vault

Hmm, never heard that one before. At least we are admitting there was a moon landing.

Yes, the videos are low quality but considering the video and communication technologies of the 1940's that is what you would expect. Still, I seriously doubt the Nazis or the Japanese had the spare resources to build spacecraft during WW-II. More likely is that they were building propaganda weapons.

Midway through the 2nd video they show the "fly trap". That was real. I've seen modern video of that but I doubt they ever got around to building the craft the fly trap was created for.

Even with all the resources of the USA and the Soviet Union, combined with captured German scientists by both countries, it took several more decades to reach the moon. It would seem impossible for Germany or Japan to have even attempted a moon mission. German rockets were rudimentary in the 1940's.

The Hitler-Alien connection is intriguing, however.

Having said all that, there were many reports by servicemen of almost all nations involved in WW-II about alien craft they saw while flying missions. Some pretty significant stories of alien craft interacting with human craft. If aliens managed to crash one of their craft in German held territory and was recovered by Hitler then it may be possible they had a leap in technology. But I would doubt that Humans could figure out alien technology in any reasonable amount of time. Plus Hitler would have used any gained technology in the war effort.

JonnOfMars wrote:I became interested in the UFO question at a young age, primarily because my father is and he had all the 1950s books related to the subject. I have followed the question from the very beginning of modern UFO history. That doesn't make me an expert, just an interested observer. From Arnold and Adamski to the present each generation has had it's smoking gun that didn't smoke or government official about to reveal information which would finally provide the world with the real answer regarding flying saucers who ends up not really having any answer. So after absorbing 50 plus years worth of books, Internet info, movies, even a sighting of my own (a UFO in the truest sense as I don't know what I saw), I still don't see that we have an answer, unless the answer is UFOs as craft from another world do not exist.

So I'm wondering if I'm missing something and want to throw this question out-

Do we have concrete proof that UFOs as alien craft exist and said proof has somehow been mislaid, hidden, misinterpreted or lying right in front of us unnoticed? Or is there nothing solid on which to hang the alien UFO theories. Are we just counting angels on pin heads?

Do we have proof that aliens exist and that UFO's are real?!? OF COURSE WE DO!!!! We've got SO MUCH proof that ANY trial and burden of proof that goes to any court of law, every day of the week, the case would be soooo open and shut that there most likely wouldn't even BE a trial on the matter!! ...So, when you ask, "do we have 'proof'", that answer is utterly and completely Obvious: HELL YES WE'VE GOT PROOF!! The proof is in the pudding!! It's in the 60+ years of research, eyewitness testimony, and countless batches of anomolous material, hydrophobic soil which remains so even 40 years AFTER the initial encounter with the UFO.

BUT, do we currently have something that, if ANYONE AND EVERYONE looked at it, would say, without a doubt, that aliens and UFO's are real? ...I don't think if aliens landed on the White House lawn, as so many skeptics say would and SHOULD happen if aliens ARE real, that we'd STILL have people who wouldn't believe for some reason or another. ...The truth is in you!! You KNOW the truth!! You already know the truth, otherwise you wouldn't be here asking this question.

...However, I WILL go on to say that the military has, in the past, used the UFO phenomenon BOTH as a means of propagating a rumor mill that UFO's were behind our Cold War spy planes and that aliens were the only ones abducting American citizens from their homes, when there's evidence that the military was doing that as well. So the Military saw a good thing in UFO's in regards to certain areas of their OWN dirty dealings and criminal espionage, convenient that they could break any treaty or law and say then claim that it was "aliens" or "UFO's". ...Question: How do you KNOW that it's not the Military who STARTED and who PERPETUATE these rumors in order to cover up their own secret projects or plans?!? ...I'll tell you how: BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN THEM!! We've TAPED them!! We've been ABDUCTED by them! They've been here since the beginning of time... OUR time! Just look at the Ancient Alien theory and the heiroglyphs on cave walls. Take a look at the pyramids or at the Mayans, at their "Word", at Nazca, take a look at Stonehenge and the EXACT PRECISION by which the Pyramids and other stone structures were built with EXACT PRECISION with regards to the Solar System and using Measurements which were IMPOSSIBLE for primitive man, except by someone who had been to and seen and understood "Space"! The Face on Mars, NASA's cover up and denial, Modern day UFO sightings and Videos and eyewitnesses, the governments OWN policy of "Deny Everything!" ...I mean, how much MORE clear could it be?!?

YES!! ALIENS AND UFO'S ARE VERY REAL AND VERY MUCH HERE!! And they're coming back to claim this planet as their own one day. 2012?! Maybe! All I know is... is that they might as well be "God" to us, since they've been controlling our fate and destiny from the beginning. At least... that's what I believe, or really, have been LEAD to believe by my own following of the evidence.

Yeah, considering the shear volume of reports from people of all walks of life in every country around the world, its hard to say there is no conclusive evidence of alien spacecraft. I hate calling them UFOs.