The Black Vault

Looks as if someone has caught Big Brother with both feet out of bounds " AGAIN. Will it ever end? I doubt that is in their playbook, further I doubt that they care.

Data collection has been a key element in security for decades, only now they are using it in conjunction with the office of " HOMELAND SECURITY It's a literal joke if you ask me. Who reads and deciphers the collected data? A computer programmed with a set of protocols, or some pencil necked geek who will make a decision based on his/her ability to " Break it all down This is just one of many examples where Big Brother is over stepping it's intended bounds and you can bet your butt that it ain't ever gonna change.

You can thank the warmongering Bush administration for all of this crap! I doubt Obama will do anything about it since those running the show will always highlight the pros vs the cons of such a program.

What do we call this stuff: Preventative terrorism!

Code: Select all

N.S.A.’s Intercepts Exceed Limits Set by Congress

WASHINGTON — The National Security Agency intercepted private e-mail messages and phone calls of Americans in recent months on a scale that went beyond the broad legal limits established by Congress last year, government officials said in recent interviews.Several intelligence officials, as well as lawyers briefed about the matter, said the N.S.A. had been engaged in “overcollection” of domestic communications of Americans. They described the practice as significant and systemic, although one official said it was believed to have been unintentional.

L@@KS LIKE THEY ARE SPINNING THE OBAMA ADMIN AS THE PRESSURE BEHIND THE STORY ~~~~~~~~~~~~~Right

The legal and operational problems surrounding the N.S.A.’s surveillance activities have come under scrutiny from the Obama administration, Congressional intelligence committees and a secret national security court, said the intelligence officials, who spoke only on the condition of anonymity because N.S.A. activities are classified. Classified government briefings have been held in recent weeks in response to a brewing controversy that some officials worry could damage the credibility of legitimate intelligence-gathering efforts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/us/16nsa.html?_r=1

Lots and lots of KICKING THE CAN where all of this classified material is concerned. We'll see how much real light gets shed on this BS.

Cole

It's the never ending dance... One administration opens the door for the next administration. All the fools that were more than happy to see their civil liberties raped, and called everyone who had a problem with it nuts, are now crying about Obama taking advantage of it... I personally think it's beautiful to watch.

Yah think Rob? I was complaining about the last federal administration and now I'm complaining about this one. They're both scary and anti-American!

As far as I'm concerned the "neo-cons" are just commies/fascists. Any who supported them would have supported Stalin. I think this administration is going to be more totalitarian. They're going to try to make all law abiding gun owners federally register their guns. They can go to hell. My state allows me to open carry without registering. Tagging guns, then taking them is what all good totalitarian regimes do before they start slaughtering their own people. But these guys will save it for the republicans to start the slaughter so stupid people will believe Obama was the "good guy".

I want my Republic back. I'd also like to try capitalism too. But, I'll start with a real Representative government first.

These traitors all need to be punished to the full extent of the law for treason!

Right on the spot Nesaie

Nesaie wrote:Yah think Rob? I was complaining about the last federal administration and now I'm complaining about this one. They're both scary and anti-American!

As far as I'm concerned the "neo-cons" are just commies/fascists. Any who supported them would have supported Stalin. I think this administration is going to be more totalitarian. They're going to try to make all law abiding gun owners federally register their guns. They can go to hell. My state allows me to open carry without registering. Tagging guns, then taking them is what all good totalitarian regimes do before they start slaughtering their own people. But these guys will save it for the republicans to start the slaughter so stupid people will believe Obama was the "good guy".

I want my Republic back. I'd also like to try capitalism too. But, I'll start with a real Representative government first.

These traitors all need to be punished to the full extent of the law for treason!

I'm pretty sure that you're overreacting in a most obvious way. I'm not trying to be an ass here, just saying you're taking the "Chicken little approach and based on what I read it's toward most things in general when it comes to certain aspects of your rights, or those you claim to have.

I hate a lot of what is going on but I'm also not interested in breaking any laws. Can I assume that you understood the post in regard to the CIA, or are you just guessing about it's real intent?

Rob is more so on the ball here, and I have to agree " It's simply beautiful to watch"

Now if only he'll release the documents currently being used to L@@K into the previous administrations legal, " so called legal activities " involving all things " WAR CRIME "

Anyone seen or heard from Rummy lately

Cole

Cole_Trickle wrote:

I'm pretty sure that you're overreacting in a most obvious way. I'm not trying to be an ass here, just saying you're taking the "Chicken little approach and based on what I read it's toward most things in general when it comes to certain aspects of your rights, or those you claim to have.

I hate a lot of what is going on but I'm also not interested in breaking any laws. Can I assume that you understood the post in regard to the CIA, or are you just guessing about it's real intent?

Maybe it's an overreaction. I think it is more because after reading a few different things, I tend to get heated up and combine them into one or two posts.

As far as "perceived" rights, I just want the ones I was told I had.

How patently false is your assumption nesaie, and Robs erudite assertion.

First you folks need to actually read the Constitution and the amendments. Collecting information is specifically allowed in the constitution.

The constitution allows for the government to forcibly read private mail between your citizens?

Sounds like a nice place to live, there bud.


Edit:

Yes, Rob, but in a sad kind of way.

Tairaa wrote:The constitution allows for the government to forcibly read private mail between your citizens?

Sounds like a nice place to live, there bud.


Edit:

Yes, Rob, but in a sad kind of way.

Again your inability to read and comprehend what is written are not surprising to me at all anymore. You are really special.

where did I ever write mail, as in postal mail?

No, email.

And likewise your inability to connect the does doesn't phase me in the slightest. On the one hand you claim to know me well enough to not be surprised at my responce, yet in your responce you clearly demonstrate that in fact you don't understand me as well as you think.