I would be more interested in your "born again" experience as opposed to the Catholic experience, sometime if you don't mind.
would be more than happy to share that with you qmark, and I still have some souls who are very dear to my heart through that the time period of my life....oh..I could talk alot about alot of things q...and I honestly would be happy to share them....honestly..how I saw them
was during that time period I had one of the dreams I talked about on a thread here...some wierd stuff happened to me then spiritually ..(but kind of alwayz has)..but I could tell you a few "interesting spiritual stories"..like what happened when I went to throw out my astrology books??
that was bizarre.....lots I could share about that time period...even dreams that made me wonder what I should be learning.
when I was with the "born agains" and I use that term only because some of them used it..(it was an orthodox greek church
) with a lot of different kind of parisheners....a substantial part of this church group being in their 20's and early 30's....lots of good people..but alot of "god talkers"lots of convo and coffee about spirtual thing..and tons of long arguements on doctrine,and that kind of stuff amongst some.
I think its healthy to talk about these things, but humanity gets in the way...and the next thing you know there are "personality conflicts, lil silly sensitivities amongst both genders,that started at times to lead to too much negativity....it happens everywhere in life.(if you like everyone you work with,,consider your self lucky)
I must have been getting pretty sic of these countless.."meetings for coffee,have a laugh,and argue about god",cause one night I had a dream.
I was on this train..with other christain friends having coffee and talking about "life"..and then I was looking up into the sky...(in the dream)...and I saw my most fav constellation (7 sisters or plaeades--close enough
well this lil "thorn" in the sky I call it...started spinning round..and round...
...in a lil circle...then (it was like a rapture or something)..cause we all started floating up into this spinning constellation
It was a nice feeling...but then we all float through the spinning circle of stars.....and guess what??
we're all in a coffee shop ..drinking coffee,and arguing about god again
(was sort of ticked off that the rapture to heaven only lead to the same sort of "game" that was going on down on earth.)
why the heck I felt the need to share that dream with you qmark..its beyond me....its was kinda cute,,that one...and all my christian friends howled with laughter when I told them. but I had been saying we should go do something for the community, just getting even a few us, to go shovel for the elderly in the church, do something together,that was a little more beneficial to god..than arguing about him(they all knew their bibles very well)
so maybe thats what god was showing me then,and maybe I need to know what that menas now, in the sense, of offering service to fellow human being who is limited in resource,strength,whatever the need maybe
I think I need to learn that lesson, so I don't end up in a "heaven" argueing about god in a coffee shop,,(while thinking to myself..this CAN"T be heaven
..) sorry I rambled on q..but I could talk a bout alot with you..wish we could do it more privately though...cause some stuff is more "spiritually " sensitive, and I've fought through some scary, lonely battles ,hanging on to prayer.....(through some strange spiritual battles)
I would LOVE to talk to another christian about some of that stuff as well.
I sense and see things I DON"T want to sense ..
I have never really liked horror movies, unless they are so riduculously made they can make me laugh....(ok..some suspense..I love....but the really whacked out horrors..no thanks..not somewhere I want my mind to go)
I believe my prayers for wisdom are being answered, ..even with this one thread..on understanding sin., and corruption in the viens of the catholic church...but it isn't just in the catholic,,though That church Has many many sins on its shoulders,,,read about the jesuits....the "control" that church has in so many other "branches " of life example being all the "jesuit" universities,and colleges....schools= cash...churches = cash...(add them all up..then tax exempt it..throw it back into multinational investment...voila...)
ok..I'm going to be quiet for a bit..but ..lets just say..I beleive iin the "sacred" concepts of the catholic church, but I don't like the BIG snakey game they are playing in the upper echelons.....it ain't holy one lil bit....
Love will TRIUMPH..through grace,