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Postby sandra » Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:44 pm

That unconditional love theory, oh yeah I'm practicing.
“Living backwards!” Alice repeated in great
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Postby sheye » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:32 pm

That unconditional love theory, oh yeah I'm practicing.


I'm happy you are practicing unconditional love

I am not so certain I can practice unconditional love, because I'm not sire what love is in some experiences, I can not unconditionally love someone who feels it is ok to have sex with an animal from another species

Perhaps I need some more soul evolution...perhaps I am stuck in a dimension,that refuses to love certain aspects unconditionally?

I'm not sure anymore sandra.
maybe if I have another beer, ponder it for a few more others,

I'll come to the conclusion,

whatever the result ,I wish to find
what true love is really all about after all the practicng ,is done..the game has been played..

and the winner called love reveals it self to me in a totality that I might absorb,with ALL of my soul
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Postby sheye » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:35 pm

are wars not based on judgements?

perhaps ill concieved

are all forms of action allowed in practicing unconditional love?
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Postby sandra » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:25 am

Love is more potent than anything, and none of us exists without it.
When I say evil is a figment of imagination, it is because,
we will always think of love first and last. Love is not imagination,
it is real, it exists in everything, and nothing can overcome love.
Not our own self condemnation, not anything.

Being who you are without judgement of yourself, is loving
who we truly are, and letting go of self condemnation.
I don't speak in "oh this type of behavior exists because we
are in 3d 4d 5d, NO. There is no seperation of self.
No one exists in another dimension that we do not
ourselves. However, HOW, are we expressing ourselves in
those other dimensions.

NO dimensions are seperate from LOVE. And no
dimension is any more than another.
“Living backwards!” Alice repeated in great
astonishment. “I never heard of such a thing!”
“—but there’s one great advantage in it, that one’s
memory works both ways.”
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Postby sheye » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:43 am

sandra,do you know what the virgin mary has supposedly said
in an apparition about the levels of

HEAVEN
PURGATORY

HELL

How many levels in each...I think it was 12

sometimes I feel like I'm in the 5th dimension of one or the other

but I really hope somone slams the door tight on hell

cause I'm not feeling the LOVE so much there,and I don't care for it
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Postby sandra » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:02 am

i sure wouldn't mind stepping out of some of the dimensions of love I experience


Well we might not step out of them, but our expression will change. But you can also see
it as stepping out of dimensions, vibrational causes and effects that we no longer need to entertain. Yes, good insight there sheye.

They hurt,,like hate hurts,and revenge hurt,and blackmail hurt
like the sorrow I feel for the abortions I've had hurt
for allowing them to take those fetus's and throw them in the garbage can
of make up products
frankly some of the love i feel in certain dimensions

just down right stinks like a big bag of rotting garbage

that needs to be tossed onto the fires and burned


When we are delivered from evil, I imagine we are to experience just that,
to be delivered from evil. Our perception is meant to be delivered from evil, love is always there. We can choose to love ourselves unconditionally,
or we may choose to pretend that we do not and perceive conditions, either way see, we WILL be delivered.

It is our perceptions that change. We are never less.
No one can change that you are no more than me, and I am no more than you.
Most people do not have comfort in those insights. They want to be
more or less, good or evil. How about just being who we are
and taking care of our own expression of love. What I have learned
so far in my life, is that loving myself is loving everyone.
That accpeting myself, is accepting everyone.


That hating myself, is hating everyone.
That judging myself, is judging everyone.

And that either way, the walls close in,
and when they do, nothing is left,
Nothing is left but love. I am given no other
choice other than to love myself.

We let love be the beginning, and we let love be the end
over and over again in perception, until love is all that
needs to be perceived. Until we can just be loving.

If all you wanted to do was love everyone, imagine how hard that
could be. What does it mean to love everyone? If it means
to love everything we are. Everything we have been, what we
are now, and what we will ever be.

sandra,do you know what the virgin mary has supposedly said
in an apparition about the levels of

HEAVEN
PURGATORY

HELL

How many levels in each...I think it was 12

sometimes I feel like I'm in the 5th dimension of one or the other

but I really hope somone slams the door tight on hell

cause I'm not feeling the LOVE so much there,and I don't care for it


That is exactly what the apparitions are about.
That our choices of perception mean everything
to what we choose. That if we choose to dwell in evil, hell will exist.
That if we choose to dwell in Love, heaven will exist.
That we have our own keys, our own choices to make about
purgatory, heaven and hell.
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Postby sheye » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:22 am

Quote:
sandra,do you know what the virgin mary has supposedly said
in an apparition about the levels of

HEAVEN
PURGATORY

HELL




That is exactly what the apparitions are about.
That our choices of perception mean everything
to what we choose. That if we choose to dwell in evil, hell will exist.
That if we choose to dwell in Love, heaven will exist.
That we have our own keys, our own choices to make about
purgatory, heaven and hell.


sheye replies to sandras above quote I think you should maybe have a little sit down chat to chat with mary herself sandra,before you go putting your own presumptions and percpectives on her words

I think she can speak for herself on what she really meant by those words, and I find it offensive
that you are trying to teach me what mary meant by something ,without ever really talking to her yourself,and asking her what it meant

but then again if you are having apparitions of mary by all means, let the rest of us in the big secrets...k?

I'll try and arrange for padre pio to be there so he can translate her words for you so you might understand them better
:? :?

please don't try telling me what padre pio 's soul journey was all about as well, though I'm not assuming you would

then again I could be the one that is dumber that a rock, and just can't make sense of what apparritions say..are they real>..are they satan in diguise..there are many books on that as well.

had a few books on parde pio,who was a great mystic, but very severe in judgement
he used to tell people their sins at times in the confessional before they themselves had the chance.
He was also known to have (during one of his very long masses)
To stop...point his finger at a man ,and scream MURDERER!!, much to the shock of the attendees

what many did not realize is that this man was planning to rig the breaks on his wifes vehicle so he could have her die, ( for what reasons I do not know) It scared the piss out of him I'm sure
and sort of glad padre pio made that JUDGMENT call right there in the middle of a mass.

to some he was a very judgemental man,and a saint, and to others a very kind person , who knew what was happening in situations that others did not.
I would have loved to have been in his confessional at some point in my life, but yet there are times I would be afraid

I would love to sit with him,and have him tell me my sins and how i have sinned,and grant me absolution,so i could continue on in the good judgment of grace.

but it scares me also.

anyhow I'm not sure you know what mary meant, but if your having visions and she is speaking to you

FESS UP GIRL..I wanna know too 8-) 8-)
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Postby sheye » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:38 am

by the way do you think padre pio has changed his mind about women not wearing skirts above their knees, cause he knew if someone came into the confessional to confess and had put on a longer skirt,,he was very intuitive that way,and he's give them a good ol'finger shaking scolding for trying to think they could fool him

Do you think hes changed his mind on all that,

or perhaps he has enetered another soul journey, and is a woman in a tight little dress ,with 4 inch high heels right now,trying to find the wonderfullness of love being all their is
all everything will come back to

if you talk to him,,late me know..k?

I want in on his take of things this time round..

and fess up about talking to mary so you understand what she means..cause i feel she wouldn't say that,

but what do I know

too dumb to know smart..some say

I wonder how mary would view me as?

can you take a crack at it?

I'm sure you'd love to try
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Postby _Billy_ » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:36 pm

He's been dead for years.
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Postby sheye » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:19 pm

He's been dead for years.


I know,and canonized a saint very shortly after his death compared to other saints
is he dead though billy?
is he really dead in the sense that he does not work within the physical form he once carried himself in
padre pio could biolocate (think i spelled that wrong opps )

meaning he could be sitting in a confessional in america as some sort of very real apparition..and yet be in Italy actually in the middle of the room,leaning back with his eyes closed like hes taking a nap

you have to understand,that this was a different kind of man then most humans...very gifted...why....maybe I'll find that out someday

is he really dead? I don't believe so in the spritual sense,
and he himself said
my greatest works will be after I'm gone...meaning...??
I think hes still alive...but I don't think hes in a mini skirt and high heels living in a new incarnation of himself..
somewhere else..where we might not yet understand

I don't think hes changed his mind about what he thinks GOD thinks is right and wrong as well
I don't think GOD would play a cruell joke on us like that

can you imagine a GOD, the real GOD saying...hahahaha ..those were my viewpoints yesterday, I've changed my mind.....now carry on feelas..and yes priests can marry..just don't get the sheets dirty..cause your doing your own laundry next round

I mean WTF????
If there is a good loving god..he wouldn't play head games like that...
thats my take on it..for what its worth, which perhaps to you isn't much, and I can understand that.

(I was talking about priests marrying each other by the way..in a man on man kind of way..sorry should have made that clearer) :lol:
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