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Re: Why Does Suffering Exist?

Postby at1with0 » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:49 pm

sandra wrote:
at1with0 wrote:
sandra wrote:you have no fear of being proven wrong, because you have experienced the truth of most other thought processes within god belief, and you begin to realise that being proven wrong is only of service to you.


The one who proves me wrong is myself. But that's just "my stuff."


Yes, true, I said being proven wrong, because thats how most people would view those things. Its more like let go, grasp, and let live.


Expanding and contracting like breathing... is how it works for me. Sometimes the sights that lay before me destroy my beliefs and other times my confidence is invulnerable.

Most people fear change in thought processes, the more we let go, grasp, and let live, the more we have to live for.


I am also afraid in change of modes of perception. Tonight things are behaving abnormally for me. They used to always appear that way, smoke and mirrors, and I have conditioned myself to not perceive this way but the level of smoke/mirrors is now very intense. It's not downright terrifying, but it is spooky. Does saying that make me vulnerable? Hehe

I thought I had something else to say but I forget what...
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Re: Why Does Suffering Exist?

Postby sandra » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:52 pm

at1with0 wrote:
sheye wrote:come talk to me ..like a real life "hero " would??


you can read this,?

someday...your "vantage " point..or what you 'perceive as your way of "taking advantage" ....of the powers that be....will no longer exist ..in the realms .of mirrors and smoke you wish to hide behind....


I'll pretend the audience includes me. I sometimes find myself in the middle of a sea. Isolated but not alone. I suppose that I wish to hide behind the smoke and mirrors because I am afraid of the dark, so to speak.. The truth. Revealed reality.

the time will come ..when the dancing ..changes its "tune" for one of more "favour"..in the realms of grace, and sacred dignity.


I look forward to that time, if it isn't now.


To whom do I speak these words??

perhaps just I ?....perhaps to ...the realms..of the totally unpredictable, totally sanctifiable, blissfully unbelievable, and the ponderous, yet profusely proficient.......


Mystery is the spice of life. :P


I luv it, you have some mysterious perspectives. :mrgreen:
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Re: Why Does Suffering Exist?

Postby at1with0 » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:53 pm

sandra wrote:
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khanster wrote:The map becomes the territory in a duality of realization.



If the map is the territory that indicates to me nonduality.


Now what do you mean by nonduality? I have to go back and read that other post of khansters


I'm not the most qualified person to describe it.
The essence of nonduality, which I view is a way to perceive reality and maybe is how it is, .. is the inherent oneness of all things.
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Re: Why Does Suffering Exist?

Postby sandra » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:56 pm

at1with0 wrote:
Expanding and contracting like breathing... is how it works for me. Sometimes the sights that lay before me destroy my beliefs and other times my confidence is invulnerable.



I am also afraid in change of modes of perception. Tonight things are behaving abnormally for me. They used to always appear that way, smoke and mirrors, and I have conditioned myself to not perceive this way but the level of smoke/mirrors is now very intense. It's not downright terrifying, but it is spooky. Does saying that make me vulnerable? Hehe

I thought I had something else to say but I forget what...


Well I said you were right on time, I knew it was my time as well. Thats not vulnerability, thats courage.... :lol: Yes I understood clearly through the smoke,,,,hehe Don't ya luv it
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Re: Why Does Suffering Exist?

Postby at1with0 » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:56 pm

sandra wrote:I luv it, you have some mysterious perspectives. :mrgreen:



I definitely take that as a compliment.
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Re: Why Does Suffering Exist?

Postby sandra » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:58 pm

at1with0 wrote:
I'm not the most qualified person to describe it.
The essence of nonduality, which I view is a way to perceive reality and maybe is how it is, .. is the inherent oneness of all things.


gotchya....no double meaning, seeing as it is.
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Re: Why Does Suffering Exist?

Postby at1with0 » Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:11 am

sandra wrote:Well I said you were right on time, I knew it was my time as well. Thats not vulnerability, thats courage.... :lol: Yes I understood clearly through the smoke,,,,hehe Don't ya luv it



Can be spooky, seeing the smoke and mirrors, in addition to the shapes they form. Yet feels like I'm close to something but what I'm unsure.

Knew it was your time as well... Interesting.
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Re: Why Does Suffering Exist?

Postby sandra » Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:19 am

at1with0 wrote:
sandra wrote:Well I said you were right on time, I knew it was my time as well. Thats not vulnerability, thats courage.... :lol: Yes I understood clearly through the smoke,,,,hehe Don't ya luv it



Can be spooky, seeing the smoke and mirrors, in addition to the shapes they form. Yet feels like I'm close to something but what I'm unsure.

Knew it was your time as well... Interesting.


I was expecting this. And I said it as I saw it. lol
You ever get a nice rush of energy?
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Re: Why Does Suffering Exist?

Postby sandra » Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:24 am

Fog just means there is alot of life moving around. cya around.
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“—but there’s one great advantage in it, that one’s
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Re: Why Does Suffering Exist?

Postby at1with0 » Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:37 am

sandra wrote:I was expecting this. And I said it as I saw it. lol
You ever get a nice rush of energy?


Definitely. :oops:

Fog just means there is alot of life moving around. cya around.


It is an amazing night here on the ranch. The moon is bright and the trees cast shadows.

There is a dense fog as well, which makes the trees appear further than they are.

The symbols are linking up, as they do from time to time.
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