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Postby Guest » Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:02 pm

Fascinating read!
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Postby Guest » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:45 pm

Thank you, this was awesome,have you done and or know of rh negative blood and dna? are they the same, thanks :roll: non-coding DNA
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Postby at1with0 » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:47 am

Hope this is relevant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tja6_h4lT6A
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty_Six_%26_2
The title references an idea first conceived by Drunvalo Melchizedek concerning the possibility of reaching a state of evolution at which the body would have two more than the normal 46 total chromosomes and leave a currently disharmonious state.[2][3] The premise is that humans would deviate from the current state of human DNA which contains 44 autosomes and 2 sex chromosomes. The next step of evolution would likely result in human DNA being reorganized into 46 and 2 chromosomes, according to Melchizedek.

Furthermore, the song references a wish to experience change through the "shadow"; an idea which represents the parts of one's personality that one hates and fears, which also exists as a recurring theme in the work of Carl Jung.[4]
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Postby sandra » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:11 pm

wildwoods wrote:Thank you, this was awesome,have you done and or know of rh negative blood and dna? are they the same, thanks :roll: non-coding DNA



"The Rh blood group system has two sets of nomenclatures, one developed by Fisher and Race and one by Wiener. Both systems reflected alternative theories of inheritance. The Fisher-Race system, which is more commonly in use today, uses the CDE nomenclature. This system was based on the theory that control the product of the corresponding antigen (e.g., a "D gene" produces D antigen, and so on). However, the d gene was hypothetical, not actual.

The Wiener system used the Rh-Hr nomenclature. This system was based on the theory that there was one gene at a single locus on each chromosome of the pair which controls production of multiple antigens. In this theory a gene R is supposed to give rise to the “blood factors” Rho, rh’, and hr” and the gene r to produce hr’ and hr”.

Notations of the two theories are used interchangeably in blood banking (e.g., Rho(D)). Wiener’s notation is more complex and cumbersome for routine use. Because it is simpler to explain, the Fisher-Race theory is more widely used.

DNA testing has shown that both theories are partially correct.[citation needed] There are in fact two linked genes (RHCE and RHD), one with multiple specificities and one with a single specificity. Thus, Wiener's postulate that a gene could have multiple specificities (something many did not give credence to originally) has been proven correct. On the other hand, Wiener's theory that there is one gene has proven incorrect, as has the Fischer-Race theory that there are three genes."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rh_blood_group_system

All in all- the scientific community will never be able to keep up with or find answers for DNA in its entirety, that is part of the purpose of me creating this thread- as I believe DNA is influenced by the collective consciousness and its connection with what is divine, just as anything else physically we try to explain or theorize in scientific terms.

I'm aware there are alot of conspiracy theories based around the rheuse factor, or RH negative blood, because of its rarity, especially concerning alein influence, however I personally believe, it is another physical representation of a spiritual cause here on earth.

"Individuals with rh negative are believed to possess greater psychic abilities. The supernatural ability is given to rh-negative individuals as a condition of their blood factor. Rh negative individuals are more attuned to psychic awareness because it is believed that they posses a genetic factor apart from this world that they were descended from a crossbreed of human and a kind of cosmic astronaut.

In its barest sense, an alien life force, the result is a human with extra sensory power that lends itself to psychic ability. Rh-positive individuals are not as psychic because they are descended from rhesus monkeys that have only the positive factor and no link to the cosmic influence.

Genetics cannot explain rh-negative factor, as genes are hereditary, although some theories state that the Rh factor was a mutation and was then passed on. This theory has no precedent in fact. Yet, there is no definitive proof of where the negative Rh factor originated.

Interest has been shown on studies of Basque people, they are a group of people that have the highest percentage of rh factors. They have a unique language and culture that is not common with similar cultures of Europe and Spain. Their percentage of rh-negative factor is highest even in their recessive gene. They are believed to be descended directly from an outside source and that is the reason their culture; language and blood are distinct from other human beings. The alien force colonized with the Basque people, interbred and left the planet.

It is a genetic fact that the rh-positive factor exists in the rhesus monkey. The theory states that man is evolved from primates. There is no presence of the rh-negative factor in primates.

The genetic argument is further proven by the Rh factor incompatibility. Mothers who are rh negative must have a blood transfusion if their unborn child has an rh-positive factor. The antibodies of the mother will reject the unborn child. This phenomenon appears in donkeys and horses when they are crossbred. Since donkeys and horses do not breed in the natural environment they are not supposed to produce offspring.

The question becomes, because of this are rh-negative factor are individuals more psychic because of this outer world link?

Blood type is a scientific certainty. It is tested and proven without fail. Logic would dictate that if aliens held ability outside the realm of physical knowledge, it exits and could be tested, but psychic ability is not a hard and fast proof. Degrees of psychic ability range between individuals. To prove that psychic ability has precedence in one blood factor has limitations in proving psychic ability in any individual. The sense cannot be measured with scientific certainty.

Rh-negative blood has been associated with an alien force and even the theory that rh-negative people have been descended from a reptilian alien. Theories on Rh factor origins continue to evolve, but the proof that they carry more psychic ability than their rh-positive brothers has yet to be determined.


Because this blood cannot be traced back evoloution wise to apes like all other blood types, and that only 5% or so of people possess this blood type, should not mean we automatically assume it is alien. Its a fairly newer discovery, which DNA to the scientific community in itself is partially new. Its not long since the double helic was even discovered.

This adds more to the thread however, and I find it quite interesting, so thank you for bringing that into the discussion and checking out the forums, hope to see you around, wildwoods. :)
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Postby sandra » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:28 pm

at1with0 wrote:Hope this is relevant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tja6_h4lT6A
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty_Six_%26_2
The title references an idea first conceived by Drunvalo Melchizedek concerning the possibility of reaching a state of evolution at which the body would have two more than the normal 46 total chromosomes and leave a currently disharmonious state.[2][3] The premise is that humans would deviate from the current state of human DNA which contains 44 autosomes and 2 sex chromosomes. The next step of evolution would likely result in human DNA being reorganized into 46 and 2 chromosomes, according to Melchizedek.

Furthermore, the song references a wish to experience change through the "shadow"; an idea which represents the parts of one's personality that one hates and fears, which also exists as a recurring theme in the work of Carl Jung.[4]


Tool does that song, huh? Thanks for adding to the thread, its very relevant. Here I found an interview with Drunvalo and Diane Cooper, it was interesting to say the least. Years ago Inja and I had many discussions on the 'Indigo Children', here at the vault.

"Diane: So Drunvalo... who are these "Children of the New Dream" that
You are so excited about?

Drunvalo: Well there are 3 different kinds of children emerging in
The world today that I have been able to identify. The first are
called the "Super Psychic Children of China." The second are called
the "Indigo Children" and the third are called the "Children of AIDS."

The first one, the "Super Psychics of China," we talked about in the
Flower of Life seminars. If you remember, the first one was
discovered in 1984 when a child was found who was psychic beyond
belief. Researchers conducted every psychic test you could imagine
and he was 100% correct every time. You could turn cards over in
another room and that didn't matter. He could perfectly know what was
on the card. So Omni magazine went to China and wrote an article on
this discovery. They found one child and then another.

When they went in 1984 they assumed it was a hoax so they did
experiments like putting 100 kids in a room and taking a book and
randomly pulling out a page. They would crumple it up and stick it
under their arm. These kids could read every word on the page. They
did test after test, and the response was flawless. The phenomena
didn't stop there. These kids are not just in China. They have spread
all over the world. I personally have been talking to parents who ask
me, ".. what do we do.. I have a kid who knows everything?" I believe
Lee Carroll is calling the children being born here in the U. S. "the
Indigo Children." I personally think the two groups are coming from
the same source, however, I don't know that for sure.

There appears to be two separate groups, incredibly psychic and
amazing. It is the third group that I am most interested in - the
"Children of AIDS." About 10 or 11 years ago in the US, there was a
baby born with AIDS. They tested him at birth and at 6 months and he
tested positive for AIDS. They tested him a year later and he still
tested positive. Then they didn't test him again until he was 6, and
what was amazing is that this test showed that he was completely AIDS
free! In fact, there was no trace that he ever had AIDS or HIV
whatsoever! He was taken to UCLA to see what was going on and those
tests showed that he didn't have normal human DNA. In the human DNA
we have 4 nucleic acids that combine in sets of 3 producing 64
different patterns that are called codons.

Human DNA all over the world always has 20 of these codons turned on
and the rest of them are turned off, except for 3 which are the stop
and start codes, much like a computer. Science always assumed that
the ones that were turned off were old programs from our past. I've
always seen them like application programs in a computer. Anyway...
this boy had 24 codons turned on - 4 more than any other human being.
Then they tested this kid to see how strong his immune system was.

They took a very lethal dose of AIDS in a petri dish and mixed it
with some of his cells and his cells remained completely unaffected.
They kept raising the lethalness of the composition and finally went
up to 3,000 times more than what was necessary to infect a human
being and his cells stayed completely disease free. Then they started
testing his blood with other things like cancer and discovered that
this kid was immune to everything!

Then they found another kid with these codons turned on - then
another one then another one - then 10,000, then 100,000, then a
million of them and at this point, UCLA, by watching world-wide DNA
testing, estimates that 1% of the world has this new DNA. That breaks
down to approximately 60 million people who are not human by the old criteria.

Diane: Is this new codon activation found only in newborn children?

Drunvalo: Well, it's mostly children, but now they are finding adults
with it too - just like the hundredth monkey theory. Now all kinds of
people are being affected by it and it's spreading fast. Remember, it
started just 5 years ago with almost no one and now it's
spreading-just like a disease. It's like an outbreak and this is only
the beginning. The other part of this concerns the new book entitled
"Cracking the Bible Code" - which has to do with running the Hebrew
Books of the Bible through a specialized computer program.

If you go to page 164 of this book, it shows where these researchers
put the word 'AIDS' into the program to see what would happen. When
they did, the program translation provided words like "HIV," "in the
blood," "the immune system," "death" - all the things you would think
you'd see around the word AIDS, but down in the corner was this
sentence that they didn't understand and it said - "the end of
disease," and that is what I believe is happening here.

"Science has stated that there are so many people showing up with
this new alien DNA that they now believe that a new human race is
being born on the earth today and apparently they can't get sick."
Now what is really incredible - they believe that it is a very
specific emotional, mental body response - a waveform coming off the
body that is causing the DNA to mutate in a certain way. I've sat
with Gregg Braden who was one of the first persons to write about
this and what we believe is that there are 3 parts to this
phenomenon. "The first part is the mind that sees Unity." It sees the
Flower of Life. It sees everything interconnected in all ways. It
doesn't see anything as separate.

And the "second part is being centered in the heart - to be Loving.
"And the "third thing is to step out of polarity - to no longer judge
the world." As long as we are judging the world as good or bad, then
we are inside polarity and remain in the fallen state. I believe
these people (with the new DNA) have somehow stepped out of judging
and are in a state where they see everything as one and feeling Love.
Whatever they are doing within themselves is producing a waveform
that when seen on computer screens looks almost identical to the DNA
molecule. So the researchers think that by the very ______expression
of their life that these people are mapping with the DNA - resonating
it - and are changing these 4 codons and in so doing become immune to
the disease.

What they don't know and this is where a lot of research gets to
Happen is so maybe they are immune, but is there anything else? They
might be immortal, who knows. Maybe there are other characteristics
that we haven't even dreamed of. I often wonder if they are all
linked together? Is there some form of telepathic connection that goes on?

Diane: Have you met any of these people? Are they accessible?

Drunvalo: Well, I've known about this for over two years and I have
personally followed this path and I think I've moved into what they
are doing. I have gone into the merkabah and asked my subconscious
mind to change my codons in the same way and ever since I began to do
this over two years ago, I haven't been able to get sick. I don't
know if I've been able to change them or not. I guess the only way
I'd know is with a DNA test. However, I've been exposed to all kinds
of things and when someone Gets sick I purposely get close to them
and try to get it. I've been trying to get sick - and I can't.

I feel something come on - it will last maybe an hour and then it's
gone. What is interesting is that hardly any of this new DNA is found
in The Super Psychic Children of China - almost zero. It is, however,
being found in Russia and the U. S. There seems to be pockets of it
and if what we are thinking is right - it has to do with a very
specific response which is where most people in the New Age are headed for.

Diane: Do you think these people are creating the DNA changes unconsciously?

Drunvalo: I think someone has made the path - one child did it
somewhere. Then he put it into the grids and it is now in the
subconscious of the earth and is accessible to anyone. Once that
happened I think somehow or another other people have connected to
this on a subconscious level in deep meditation and prayer and made
the change. A new race is being born and it is one of the most
remarkable phenomenon that has happened on the planet! It's
incredible that no one seems to know about this until now!

Diane: Well, you are the only one I've ever heard speak about this.

Drunvalo: Well, I've been tracking this for about 2 years and I've
waited to say anything because I wanted to make sure it was real. In
the book called "The Indigo Children" there has been extensive
research on these children. There are websites you can go to if
you're a parent where they begin to interview you about exactly
what's going on with your child. Like I said earlier, these kids know
exactly what you're feeling and what you're thinking. You can't hide
anything from them. It's really amazing! I see it as a phenomenon
like the ETs except they aren't coming here in spaceship form - they
are coming here in spirit form making it personal by coming into the
earth's evolutionary cycle and joining with us.

I've often thought that when spirits come in on the right side of the
planet - Japan, China, and Tibet for instance, the incarnating being
takes on the psychic characteristics (of those people), and if they
come in on the western side - the logical side (i. e., physical
characteristics) - then the DNA comes in changed. But that's just
speculation on my part. I'm just looking at this and Trying to
understand what is occurring. At the workshops I'm going to do, I'm
going to bring everything I've learned together and teach people to
actually access this and make the change. I think I know - or I'm very close.

Diane: And that has to do with putting yourself in a certain state of
consciousness?

Drunvalo: Yes, a very specific state of consciousness produces a
change in your DNA - and I think it's just the beginning of much more
than that. The fact that it could be the end of disease is just a
tiny bit of the total picture.

Diane: How would this particular kind of work and discovery affect
the DNA activation work that seems to be popping up all over?

Drunvalo: Well, if you know your light body and you know how Psychic
energy works and if you understand the connection of the subconscious
to all life on this planet, then you can go in and ask your
subconscious. "Your subconscious knows exactly which codons those
kids have changed and if you ask for those things to happen through
your light body and in the presence of God," it should occur. "It
also requires dropping polarity - no longer thinking in terms of good
or bad but seeing the wholeness and completion and perfection of
life." It is a very definite mind, emotional and body response.

The body response is the one where your body simply does not
acknowledge good or bad but sees that there is a higher purpose
behind it all. We all know this stuff - everyone from Jesus to
Krishna to Sai Baba has been talking about this for a long time, but
this is the first I'm aware of where something actually is changing
in the outer environment. People's DNA is really changing. There have
been many of us who have talked about this - but none of this had
been seen by science. Now it has been seen, and it has been documented.

Diane: So, if that's the case, then what significance does that have
on our lives today?

Drunvalo: I believe that all of us have the choice to follow this
particular pattern that the children have set up or not. It is said
that "the children will lead the way." If we wish to and we trust
these children, as I do, one of the side effects is the immunity to disease.

Diane: There are a lot of us who are choosing immortality. However,
Some people would say that to be immune to disease is also to upset
the life/death cycle which has supposedly helped to keep the planet
in balance. How would you answer that?

Drunvalo: Well, I just don't judge it. This is happening and if it is
going to upset the cycle and it probably will in some way- everything
that is occurring in life has a reason and purpose for it. Perhaps
these people who don't get sick anymore - perhaps they won't even die
anymore and maybe their consciousness is so aligned with the original
purpose of earth that ultimately it would mean an earth that is whole
and complete and not one that is polluted and deadly and overtaxed.
We could easily live with 6 billion people or 20 billion... if... we
live differently. There is plenty of space, and it's just that we are
using our resources in ways that are killing the planet. If we were
to choose to live in different ways, that might change.

Maybe through these people the answers might become apparent. For
someone to move into a state where they are immune to disease is a
very powerful indication that they are definitely in harmony with
life somehow. We can equate this process with the mutation of
bacteria and viruses. We attack their systems with pollutants such as
penicillin for instance, and it kills them all except for a few.
Those few get stronger. Now what's happening is that these bacteria
are getting to the place where they are immune to the poisons we are
giving them. And have we not done the same thing?

We are mutating to a point where we are not affected by pollution or
viruses or by disease. And you know, there is another thing that
happened last year - AIDS dropped something like 47% - the largest
drop of a single disease in the history of the world. I believe that
it had a lot to do with this very thing we are talking about.

Diane: That's exciting!

Drunvalo: Yes, it is. I just let the earth prompt me where to go. Of
course, it is important to know our light bodies and how to use them,
but the children are very carefully saying - come this way - and see
where this leads.

Diane: So is this what your future workshops will be focused on?

Drunvalo: Yes. I will be putting everything I've learned in the last
two years from my research and the Earth/Sky work, into a simple
response where anyone can move into the place that the children
accessed. I'll do my best!"

http://prosvetlenie.start.bg/article.php?aid=3958

P.S. YES, I have a habit of posting the entirety of these things instead of just linking to them.
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Postby sandra » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:31 pm

Rykuss wrote:Fascinating read!


Thanks for checking it out......I'm glad to know some people have checked this thread out, and feel free to add more if you like in the future, of anything on the subject.

Nice to see you are still around, Rykuss. :)
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Postby sandra » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:38 pm

"Drunvalo: I think someone has made the path - one child did it
somewhere. Then he put it into the grids and it is now in the
subconscious of the earth and is accessible to anyone. Once that
happened I think somehow or another other people have connected to
this on a subconscious level in deep meditation and prayer and made
the change.


Have to note atleast one thing from that interview-
pretty much he is saying someone consciously activated all of this-
It was not just some child anywhere....I do not believe that.
DNA is a micro physical representation, and one that can create mass amounts of space for new things here in our physical world.

He appears a little confused as to what the source is of all this DNA 'mutation', yet when really reading through his interview, its obvious what he believes is the source. Just couldn't say it straight out. ;)
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Postby sandra » Fri May 07, 2010 3:00 pm

Russian DNA Discoveries Explain Human Paranormal Events.


http://www.rense.com/general62/expl.htm
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Postby Guest » Sat May 08, 2010 9:39 pm

sandra wrote:Russian DNA Discoveries Explain Human Paranormal Events.


http://www.rense.com/general62/expl.htm


That is simply amazing! Thanks for sharing. ;) I re-read this thread and the thread on the akashic records and the bolded text below struck me like a ton of bricks. I also saw that you came to the same conclusion I did concerning DNA and the akashic records.

at1with0 wrote:The title references an idea first conceived by Drunvalo Melchizedek concerning the possibility of reaching a state of evolution at which the body would have two more than the normal 46 total chromosomes and leave a currently disharmonious state.[2][3] The premise is that humans would deviate from the current state of human DNA which contains 44 autosomes and 2 sex chromosomes. The next step of evolution would likely result in human DNA being reorganized into 46 and 2 chromosomes, according to Melchizedek.

Furthermore, the song references a wish to experience change through the "shadow"; an idea which represents the parts of one's personality that one hates and fears, which also exists as a recurring theme in the work of Carl Jung.[4]


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Postby sandra » Sun May 09, 2010 8:43 pm

In their book Vernetzte Intelligenz, Grazyna Gosar and Franz Bludorf explain these connections precisely and clearly. The authors also quote sources presuming that in earlier times humanity had been just like the animals: very strongly connected to group consciousness and thereby acted as a group. In order to develop and experience individuality, however, we humans had to forget hyper-communication almost completely.

Now that we are fairly stable in our individual consciousness, we can create a new form of group consciousness - namely one in which we attain access to all information via our DNA without being forced or remotely controlled about what to do with that information. We now know that just as we use the internet, our DNA can feed proper data into the network, can retrieve data from the network, and can establish contact with other participants in the network. Remote healing, telepathy or "remote sensing" about the state of another can thus be explained. Some animals know from afar when their owners plan to return home. This can be freshly interpreted and explained via the concepts of group consciousness and hyper-communication.

Any collective consciousness cannot be sensibly used over any period of time without a distinctive individuality; otherwise we would revert to a primitive herd instinct that is easily manipulated. Hyper-communication in the new millennium means something quite different.

Researchers think that if humans with full individuality would regain group consciousness, they would have a god-like power to create, alter and shape things on Earth! AND humanity is collectively moving toward such a group consciousness of the new kind.

Fifty percent of children will become a problem as soon as they go to school, since the system lumps everyone together and demands adjustment. But the individuality of today's children is so strong that they refuse this adjustment and resist giving up their idiosyncrasies in the most diverse ways.

At the same time more and more clairvoyant children are born. Something in those children is striving more towards the group consciousness of the new kind, and it can no longer be suppressed.

As a rule, weather for example is rather difficult to influence by a single individual. But it may be influenced by group consciousness (nothing new about this to some indigenous tribes). Weather is strongly influenced by Earth resonance frequencies (Schumann frequencies). But those same frequencies are also produced in our brains, and when many people synchronize their thinking or when individuals (spiritual masters, for instance) focus their thoughts in a laser-like fashion, then it is not at all surprising that they can influence the weather.

A modern day civilization which develops group consciousness would have neither environmental problems nor scarcity of energy: for if it were to use such mental powers as a unified civilization, it would have control of the energies of its home planet as a natural consequence.

When a great number of people become unified with higher intention as in meditating on peace - potentials of violence also dissolve.


Thanks rykuss, so do you think people are capbale of altering and changing things on earth? Just wondering if you had any thoughts on that information. Always interesting what people think concerning DNA and consciousness.

You as well believe DNA and the Arkashic records are interlinked? 8-)

"Living DNA substance (in living tissue, not in vitro) will always react to language-modulated laser rays and even to radio waves, if the proper frequencies (sound) are being used. This finally and scientifically explains why affirmations, hypnosis and the like can have such strong effects on humans and their bodies. It is entirely normal and natural for our DNA to react to language."

That is a quote from the last article. I believe it is also very natural for our dna to react to letter sequencing. Vibrational frequencies can be changed in endless amounts of ways, altering our state of consciousness and our dna all in one.
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