G2 wrote:You stake your life on how sure you are of this, and can not even provide the evidence to back yourself up.
Given we’re talking about something related to religion you might not want to play that card mate.
Now, back to civilized debate please (considering you’re the mod on here G2 I think you have acted very poorly).
I agree with G2 that there are many people who have jumped on the band wagon but I agree with Sheye that there are more who wouldn’t have come forward. If you ask me the numbers probably balance out, even though that’s not the way to look at it (and I’m not).
As for the link with Greg Syssyzes (forgot his last name) it was an accident. Sheye didn’t react as well as she should have but that’s only because she’s being constantly goaded into everything by G2 (ie. "I'm starting to look like someone who doesn't believe a word you say", or something like that).
G2 – The NWO is very hard to prove and there is a huge opening for Scam artists because it’s all subjective. The proof of the NWO, and you can look this up yourself, is in main-stream politics; it is a fact that the EU has complete control over Europe and it is a fact that the people pull zero weight in the running of Europe.
I don’t like `proof` of the NWO through people like Greg Syssyzes either, I don’t count any of it as `proof` to be honest, so you have every right to be sceptical of him (I know I am). Politics is fact…first/second hand accounts is not although I don't rule it out until there is proof it's wrong.
Also I would like to hear how we can back up our claim from G2? He’s happy telling us to prove our claims and yet I haven’t seem him telling us how to, although I might have missed it (sorry if I did by the way).
My claims are physical abuse by a nun towards my Nonna (grandmother)…how can I prove something that was done back in the 40’s high up in the mountains of Northern Italy?
(edit: poor show on my part)
Both G2 and Sheye were out of line in this debate at some point so I think you should BOTH apologize and start acting properly, especially G2 given that he’s a mod now (a terrible thing if you ask me).
Quite honestly all this would have been avoided if G2 acted in an appropriate way in the first place; I’d hate to guess how many people I held up as `fact` when I started researching things and later found out to be scam artist, a gentle nudge would have been batter than a harsh stick.
I agree 100% with both G2 and Sheye, and I like them both as well (even though G2 got a bit of a kicking in this post), at some points in this argument but I don’t understand why nether of you can work together on this and expose the people who need to be exposed. Why can't you do it?
I’m having an exceptionally bad day today, trust me you have no idea, and yet I’ve managed to kept this post somewhat polite…if I can do it when I’m in this sort of mood then you two should be able to do now.
Also could you explain this G2? Why did you react in such a way? All Sheye did was a question I would have asked on the thread but it would derail it rather quickly:
greeney2 wrote:Why isn't it enough for you to accept the way Item7 felt this real life experience affected her?
She is left with the feeling the accident was not worse because of God, why do you feel the need to cast doubt? Does she need to justify to you, her faith during a traumatic event with her Husband and Grandchildren, answering an insulting question?