humphreys wrote:Something created it, yes, the Big Bang. We can prove black holes exist by indirect means, we cannot do the same for God.
The big bang is a theory,the best theory they have ,and that is all it actually is..
It is a theory, yes, but it isn't just
It is a theory going by these definitions:
"•a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world;"
"A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena."
We can be very confident that a Big Bang occurred, as all evidence points to this being the case. What caused the Big Bang, how, and why, is what is usually debated by both scientists and religious types alike.
chiselray wrote:But it may well be true,and if it is true ,then ask why it actually happened ? science cannot answer or has attempted to answer from where a singularity developed from..
I do not know the exact reason it happened, but scientists have come up with a number of competing hypotheses that are all very plausible.
remember it is a singularity..it could not have come from a universe full of matter because that didnt exist inside absolutely nothing to begin with
The most popular theory right now is that it was one of probably many inflationary events spawned from within a realm we call the multiverse.
chiselray wrote:why did it explode and from where did it come ?
Again, there are lots of possibilities, I do not know which is correct, but my best guess is that before the Universe existed there were no rules, and no laws, so spectacular and unlikely events like matter coming into existence from nothing occurred constantly as there was nothing to prevent them. In a world with no laws, anything can happen. Again, that is my personal guess, and there are many other plausible explanations out there.
chiselray wrote:And of course it contained all matter to begin with if the theory is correct..So within an area of what we call the universe now ,there was nothing ,NOTHING ok.
There may have been nothing, but just as likely there was a permanent realm, or a vacuum from which matter could come into existence. Quantum Physics has already shown us that something can come from nothing at the quantum level, in a vacuum.
chiselray wrote:So why did it contain everything when it actually had nothing to begin with ? Its easy enough to explain away a simple belief that life was the product of evolution following a big bang theory,without explaining with certain fact and knowledge exactly from where that matter came from.
Assuming it just happened to be there is not nearly enough to satisfy anyone ,that conclusion is shortsighted.
You are trying to get an explanation of something that we do not have precise answers for, only plausible possibilities, but these are the options from the atheistic point of view:
1) The universe came into existence from nothing
2) The Universe, or the realm from which the big bang occurred, always existed, along with the necessary materials to spawn the Universe
The exact same applies to the God you believe in, either he came from nothing, or he always existed. You cannot act like God explains anything here that the no-God explanation fails to, or that the no-God explanation has problems the God explanation does not.
Why is it unsatisfactory to assume the materials for our Universe always existed, but it is satisfactory to assume your God always existed? Remember, the materials themselves are far less complex than your God, who must be complex enough to actually create the materials and the Universe itself. It seems infinitely simpler to me that mere materials existed, rather than an infintely complex being like an all-powerful deity who just happend to have always been there.
It actually makes even more sense to me to assume the creation of Universes and the materials to create them are natural repeatedly occurring events, in another permanent realm (the multiverse), that has no laws to govern what can and cannot potentially happen. We only think that getting something from nothing is impossible because that's what our particular Universe's laws have taught us, but that need not be the case in general, in other Universes or in the multiverse itself.
"All of our behavior can be traced to biological events about which we have no conscious knowledge: this has always suggested that free will is an illusion."
- Sam Harris