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Postby khanster » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:03 am

We seem to be headed towards a completely credit based cashless society. ...I hope it is just speculation on my part, yes.

It seems that the powers in charge of the world economic situation might eventually [...soon?] try to implement such a system based on unlimited credit in order to lurch the world economic recession out of its current crisis. Then everyone would exist in a type of globalized pyramid scheme where people would overspend, as they would perceive themselves to exist in an illusioned dream of unlimited buying power and the economy would appear to be booming as the burden of debt becomes a heavy yoke to be carried by increasing numbers of future generations.

Essentially, people would quickly amass large debt and since no cash exists, their negative credit owed would be deduced from their positive credit earned. Since many[...most?] people would unthinkingly build up massive negative credit they would essentially become slaves to the system.
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Postby MonarchSmile » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:36 am

Would Become?
What are you?
(Failed Bank President/BCCI)
Tough Job Market?
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Postby bionic » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:32 am

cash was/is just a symbol anyway(of goods and energy exchange)..just like credit points would be.
My main problem with "credits" instead of cash in hand is that your points could be manipulated easily by a third party.

That's not so easily done with cash in hand..most people keep the bulk of their money in the banks, these days, anyway...numbers there can be easily manipulated, too.

That cash is just cash in theory anyway.

The truth is cash..which was just a symbol for goods/exchange of goods..in the first place..has been getting phazed out since banks were created...money in banks was always mostly, money in theory..vs..cold hard , physical cash.
(like bills in a mason jar..or bars of gold, etc..)

Over time, actual goods and services have been symbolically replaced to the point of being practially obtuse and meaningless

Maybe we need to get back to the barter system?

Start all over?
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Postby MonarchSmile » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:41 am

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It's the weekend...
I got a headache from afternoon shift/party afterwards
I,m eating a banana now
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Postby khanster » Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:53 am

It could create a slave society, where humans would evolve into two distinct species:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... ecies.html

Human race will 'split into two different species'

The human race will one day split into two separate species, an attractive, intelligent ruling elite and an underclass of dim-witted, ugly goblin-like creatures, according to a top scientist.

100,000 years into the future, sexual selection could mean that two distinct breeds of human will have developed.
The alarming prediction comes from evolutionary theorist Oliver Curry from the London School of Economics, who says that the human race will have reached its physical peak by the year 3000.

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The report claims that after they reach their peak around the year 3000 humans will begin to regress
These humans will be between 6ft and 7ft tall and they will live up to 120 years.
"Physical features will be driven by indicators of health, youth and fertility that men and women have evolved to look for in potential mates," says the report, which suggests that advances in cosmetic surgery and other body modifying techniques will effectively homogenise our appearance.

Men will have symmetrical facial features, deeper voices and bigger penises, according to Curry in a report commissioned for men's satellite TV channel Bravo.

Women will all have glossy hair, smooth hairless skin, large eyes and pert breasts, according to Curry.
Racial differences will be a thing of the past as interbreeding produces a single coffee-coloured skin tone.
The future for our descendants isn't all long life, perfect bodies and chiselled features, however.
While humans will reach their peak in 1000 years' time, 10,000 years later our reliance on technology will have begun to dramatically change our appearance.

Medicine will weaken our immune system and we will begin to appear more child-like.
Dr Curry said: "The report suggests that the future of man will be a story of the good, the bad and the ugly.

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H G Wells' Science Fiction novel The Time Machine (which was later adapted into two films - this picture is from the 2002 version) the human race has evolved into two species, the highly intelligent and wealthy Eloi...

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...and the frightening, animalistic Morlock (as seen in the 1960 film version of the classic book)
"While science and technology have the potential to create an ideal habitat for humanity over the next millennium, there is the possibility of a monumental genetic hangover over the subsequent millennia due to an over-reliance on technology reducing our natural capacity to resist disease, or our evolved ability to get along with each other.
"After that, things could get ugly, with the possible emergence of genetic 'haves' and 'have-nots'."
Dr Curry's theory may strike a chord with readers who have read H G Wells' classic novel The Time Machine, in particular his descriptions of the Eloi and the Morlock races.

In the 1895 book, the human race has evolved into two distinct species, the highly intelligent and wealthy Eloi and the frightening, animalistic Morlock who are destined to work underground to keep the Eloi happy.


http://csusap.csu.edu.au/~darbea01/

Abstract

Electronic cash is a term becoming more acceptable as the world makes a shift towards a cashless society. Since the 1960’s governments and financial institutions have made steady; slow, but steady steps towards the goal of a society without cash. The cashless society is being sold as a more convenient method of payment, and a method of preventing crimes all the way from the robbery of cash from an individual to the extent of money laundering among crime syndicates.



The move to use electronic cash in an ironically termed society dubbed “cashless”; there are many issues that include security, privacy, crime and computerization. We as a society must as a whole be comfortable with this new shift or the tendency to rebel becomes prominent. As the financial institutions have implemented such things as debit cards, credit cards, internet banking, etc, it has slowly brought society into the acceptance zone whereby another step could be taken. Without society being able to understand the pros and cons of electronic cash, the full benefit of the cashless society may never be realized.





http://www.truthnews.us/?p=2238

Elites Seek Control Over Rising Cashless Society

The terrorists in the federal government are continuing their push to implement a cashless economic enslavement system. According to a legislative notice from the U.S. Senate, a new Housing Bill (HR 3221) contains a provision that will require nearly every online credit card transaction to be reported directly to the Internal Revenue Service. The insanity of this is obvious and it is nothing more than a way to give the government a means to track and trace as many private transactions as humanly possible. Previously, Visa’s CEO has stated that it is their goal to establish a cashless society by the year 2012. As technology increases, a greater number of businesses are accepting credit card payments. It wasn’t too long ago that fast food restaurants wouldn’t accept anything but cash for payment, now almost all of them accept credit cards. We are also starting to see biometrics utilized as a way to facilitate transactions. The bottom line is that there is an agenda at play to setup a cashless system that will allow the elite to take total control over the global economy. These people want to eliminate privacy in mutual exchanges and this is another step in doing just that.

The following is taken off of the legislative notice from the U.S. Senate Bill summary describing this draconian reporting scheme within HR 3221.

The proposal requires information reporting on payment card and third party network transactions. Payment settlement entities, including merchant acquiring banks and third party settlement organizations, or third party payment facilitators acting on their behalf, will be required to report the annual gross amount of reportable transactions to the IRS and to the participating payee. Reportable transactions include any payment card transaction and any third party network transaction. Participating payees include persons who accept a payment card as payment and third party networks who accept payment from a third party settlement organization in settlement of transactions. A payment card means any card issued pursuant to an agreement or arrangement which provides for standards and mechanisms for settling the transactions. Use of an account number or other indicia associated with a payment card will be treated in the same manner as a payment card. A de minimis exception for transactions of $10,000 or less and 200 transactions or less applies to payments by third party settlement organizations. The proposal applies to returns for calendar years beginning after December 31, 2010. Back-up withholding provisions apply to amounts paid after December 31, 2011. This proposal is estimated to raise $9.802 billion over ten years.

Groups like Freedomworks and companies like EBay have already come out denouncing this provision. The bottom line is that the federal government has no right to demand this type of information. Not only that, but how does the IRS intend on securing this information that they are going to collect from all of these online transactions? The whole concept is ridiculous and an obvious invasion of privacy. This is just another control mechanism that is being put in place so the establishment can eventually have the capabilities to track and trace every single electronic transaction. Clearly, a totalitarian big brother system is being put into place, and these criminals in Washington DC are just trying to take it to another level by hiding this provision in a 600+ page bill. It is a disgrace.

A few months ago, Elliot Spitzer the former New York Governor was forced out because his financial transactions were tracked back to the purchase of prostitution services. The banks already have the ability to track and trace transactions with impunity. This provision will centralize control to track and trace almost all electronic financial transactions and that is not a good thing.

It is unfortunate that we have a bunch of control freak Nazis that want to do these things, but this is the agenda. The modern day priest class that is in control seeks the total destruction of economic privacy and they are doing an excellent job at doing just that. They’ve managed to get everybody addicted to this cashless society and now they are bringing in the enslavement apparatus to track and trace activity within it. At first all transactions will be conducted using credit and debit cards, then it will be by way of biometrics, then it will be an implantable microchip. Or who knows, maybe they’ll just skip biometrics and go directly to an implantable microchip. Either way, the agenda is painfully clear, and it is completely unacceptable. Hopefully this legislation will get defeated, but we shouldn’t be holding our breath either. HR 3221 looks to be on the fast track to getting signed into law.



http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-3221

H.R. 3221:

2007-2008 Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008

Introduced Jul 30, 2007
Reported by Committee Sep 5, 2007
Passed House Aug 4, 2007
Passed Senate Apr 10, 2008
Signed by President Jul 30, 2008

This bill became law.


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There appears to be a grass roots resistance movement to the idea of implanted bio-chips...

http://noverichipinside.com/





Welcome

The We the People will not be Chipped - No Verichip Inside Movement, is based on the irrefutable fact, that mankind has inalienable human rights that are absolute and can not be debased, nor perverted. Human life can not be degraded to a 16 digit RFID chip number embedded under you skin under any circumstance. By uniting on this common ground, we can send a strong message to the IBM funded Verichip that

We The People Will Not Be Chipped!


The cashless society concept appears to be a way to deter crime?

Probably not...

I suspect that as technology evolves, so will the criminal mind. Technology will be used by criminals to steal information stored in
bio-chips also.
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Postby MonarchSmile » Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:02 pm

Get back to work flunky

You don't got the money to leave Earth yet?
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Postby khanster » Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:35 pm

MonarchSmile wrote:Get back to work flunky

You don't got the money to leave Earth yet?


Why just leave Earth, when you can jump to an alternate reality?

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Postby MonarchSmile » Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:45 pm

I did
I have been
It's fun
I'm still human :oops:
I don't do that when I'm driving tho'
Try it masturbating :!:


:D
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Postby khanster » Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:20 pm

MonarchSmile wrote:I did
I have been
It's fun
I'm still human :oops:
I don't do that when I'm driving tho'
Try it masturbating :!:
:D


You remind me of someone called "Dissonant Dreamer", at this forum.

http://www.createforum.com/universalsight/

All we need now is at1with0 to join in on your thread-jacking
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Postby MonarchSmile » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:03 pm

Actually you are doing fine
I am adding encouragement
Just yanking at your testosterone
:D

How many years do you think this might take?

It could create a slave society, where humans would evolve into two distinct species:
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