This site has no investigative value I have looked up all of the FOIA Information...I already have it Greeney2.
As for taking my bat and ball home....it is my bat and ball...it is my decision to do with them as I choose. Regardless, I think I made it patently clear I wanted scientific or cold hard evidence, nobody was able to provide it, additionally apart from yourself and Inja nobody wanted to discuss the matter in a dispassionate mind set, as a Narcotics Officer I rely upon science and as an investigator with an excess of 20 years experience I rely upon fact and not suppositions.
The quote from Joe Friday of Dragnet fame comes foremost in my mind when doing any investigation " The facts ma'am, just the facts" and I have a fire proof 4 draw filling cabinet which is fast filling up with facts and data about 9-11
...these are just a few irrefutable Facts:
1. The NTSB released all the FDR (Flight Data Recorder) information and the data on those FDR's conflict the U.S Governments own data.
2. The mainstream media has not or refuses to report on the release of the information.
The information was released in 2007
3. The FDR's data is in direct conflict with the Official version of events.
Compare the FDR's data to the 9-11 Commission Report.
4. What has become known as "The Falling Man" and Edna Cintron who by some twist of fate survived the impact of the Jets survived the fires which according to the 9-11 Commission were so intense they melted steel girders and caused the buildings to collapse, unfortunately they too perished not as a result of fires but because they fell to their deaths.
It is impossible to refute the photographic evidence.
5. WTC 7 was not struck by a plane yet fell five hours later and any falling debris can not be attributed to it's demise.
Photographic evidence which can not be refuted and No scientific or other evidence supports or refutes why it collapsed in it's own footprint.
6. Never before or since 9-11 has any building collapsed due to fire as the 9-11 commission report claims.
Historical fact. Strangely 3 buildings did on 9-11 but WTC 7 was absent of significant fires and photographic evidence proves it.
7. Not a single page of the 9-11 Commission's report mentions how or why WTC 7 collapsed.
Look it up.
8. Molten metal was found under WTC 7, there were no fires to the proported magnitude of WTC 1 & 2 in WTC 7.
Photographic evidence and Eyewitness statements recorded on video.
9. As WTC 7 was not mentioned in the 9-11 report there are no explanations of any kind about any circumstances surrounding WTC 7.
Read the report
10. FAA and ATC (Air Traffic Control) radar (and seen on Television on 9-11) still had FL93 and Flt 77 in the air after the reported crash times.
As seen on CNN..videos on U-tube and Google Video and at pilotsfor911truth.org
11. WTC 1, 2 and 7 all fell into their own footprint. Only 2 were hit by planes.
We all saw it and countless videos exist
12. Aviation fuel is 4/5 kerosene and while highly flammable is NOT a fuel that yields high temperatures.
Ask any pilot or any aircraft refueler or petroleum supplier.
13. WTC 1, 2 and 7 fell at the speed of gravity which is scientifically and mathematically given the laws of basic physics impossible to occur given the levels at which the damage by the planes to each of the buildings.
As result of Scientific and mathematical analysis of building collapse footage.
14. The entire WTC was in complete lockdown on the Labor Day week end prior to 9-11 for "maintenance" and nobody was permitted into the buildings unless they were maintenance crews or technicians or unless a security clearance was granted by WTC Security.
Eyewitness statements (several)
15. 72 hours is more than sufficient time to plant explosive ordinance for demolition crews if it is co-ordinated properly.
Demolitions Experts statement (self sourced)
16. Every steel girder was no more than 1 or 2 storeys in length and in the rubble many were cut at a 45 degrees which are NOT in any way attributed to cutting for removal from Ground Zero.
Further supporting the demolition theorem. 45 degree cuts to steel girders is a hall mark of demolition according to demolitions experts, one of whom I personally sourced (Photographic evidence is all over the internet)
The above facts I know to be self evident, I am continuing my investigations, I choose to do them elsewhere and I will no longer be getting involved in forums especially this forum.
So Greeney2 you and others seem to place way to much importance upon yourselves and childish behavior may be the norm for you and certain elements here and if you want to put up with it go right ahead...I don't have to and that is why I am awaiting my "un-register" request to be processed.
As for the evidence I have cited here ....most of it is freely available on the internet. I am not going to post the links because most will never look at them ...if it peaks your interest enough you can find them...I am not going to do it for you.
As for you telling me to man up, my suggestion if for you and others to grow up and face the facts that the 9-11 commission for political reasons and pressure did NOT properly or fully investigate the events, it merely provided a quick answer to a world demanding answers in a time when the entire world was in shock and would believe anything they were told as being fact, as such the science did not have to make sense so long as it was plausible.
Given that the passage of 8 years has passed, more and more people believe that 9-11 was a conspiracy. The U.S Government by it's silence even under the new administration is not doing anything to put the matter to rest and is actually fueling the conspiracy theories because of it.
Now, I have never said there was a conspiracy but I do believe there is an active cover-up going on. I also believe that cover-up to be politically based and both political parties are as guilty as each other and just as complicit.
I do NOT believe that the WTC buildings came down solely because of the impact of planes and the ensuing fires...they had help, through the use of Thermite and/or explosives. Common sense is a key element to know within yourself no matter how painful the science used in the 9-11 Commission's report is blatantly false and is a fraud when challenged by REAL science and common sense.
I have now said all that I will say..As far as I am concerned you can talk and argue about it all you like I will no longer be posting. Good bye.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. -Thomas Jefferson
Copies of all my posts are now kept on file.