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Postby Nesaie » Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:49 pm

http://wvgazette.com/Opinion/JamesAHaught/200907220060

July 22, 2009
Agog over Bush's comments on Gog and Magog
Incredibly, President George W. Bush told French President Jacques Chirac in early 2003 that Iraq must be invaded to thwart Gog and Magog, the Bible's satanic agents of the Apocalypse.
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Incredibly, President George W. Bush told French President Jacques Chirac in early 2003 that Iraq must be invaded to thwart Gog and Magog, the Bible's satanic agents of the Apocalypse.

Honest. This isn't a joke. The president of the United States, in a top-secret phone call to a major European ally, asked for French troops to join American soldiers in attacking Iraq as a mission from God.

Now out of office, Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to their "common faith" (Christianity) and told him:

"Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East. ... The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled. ... This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins."

This bizarre -- seemingly deranged -- episode happened while the White House was assembling its "coalition of the willing" to unleash the Iraq invasion. Chirac says he was boggled by Bush's call, and "wondered how someone could be so superficial and fanatical in their beliefs."

After the 2003 call, the puzzled French leader didn't comply with Bush's request. Instead, his staff asked Thomas Romer, a theologian at the University of Lausanne, to analyze the weird appeal. Dr. Romer explained that the Old Testament book of Ezekiel contains two chapters (38 and 39) in which God rages against Gog and Magog, sinister and mysterious forces menacing Israel. Jehovah vows to smite them savagely, to "turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws," and slaughter them ruthlessly. In the New Testament, the mystical book of Revelation envisions Gog and Magog gathering nations for battle, "and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them."

In 2007, Dr. Romer recounted Bush's strange behavior in Lausanne University's review, Allez Savoir. A French-language Swiss newspaper, Le Matin Dimanche, printed a sarcastic account titled: "When President George W. Bush saw the prophesies of the Bible coming to pass." France's La Liberte likewise spoofed it under the headline, "A small scoop on Bush, Chirac, God, Gog and Magog." But other news media missed the amazing report.

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Subsequently, ex-President Chirac confirmed the nutty event in a long interview with French journalist Jean-Claude Maurice, who tells the tale in his new book, "Si Vous le Répétez, Je Démentirai" ("If You Repeat it, I Will Deny"), released in March by the publisher Plon.

Oddly, mainstream media are ignoring this alarming revelation that Bush may have been half-cracked when he started his Iraq war. As far as we can learn, our Charleston Gazette is the only U.S. newspaper to report it so far. Canada's Toronto Star recounted the story, calling it a "stranger-than-fiction disclosure ... which suggests that apocalyptic fervor may have held sway within the walls of the White House." Fortunately, online commentary sites are spreading the news, filling the press void.

The French revelation jibes with other known aspects of Bush's renowned evangelical certitude. For example, a few months after his phone call to Chirac, Bush attended a 2003 summit in Egypt. The Palestinian foreign minister later said the American president told him he was "on a mission from God" to defeat Iraq. At that time, the White House called this claim "absurd."

Recently, GQ magazine revealed that former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld attached warlike Bible verses and Iraq battle photos to war reports he hand-delivered to Bush. One declared: "Put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground."

It's awkward to say openly, but now-departed President Bush is a religious crackpot, an ex-drunk of small intellect who "got saved." He never should have been entrusted with power to start wars.

For six years, Americans really haven't known why he launched the unnecessary Iraq attack. Official pretexts turned out to be baseless. Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, after all, and wasn't in league with terrorists, as the White House alleged. Collapse of his asserted reasons led to speculation about hidden motives: Was the invasion loosed to gain control of Iraq's oil -- or to protect Israel -- or to complete Bush's father's old vendetta against the late dictator Saddam Hussein? Nobody ever found an answer.

Now, added to the other suspicions, comes the goofy possibility that arcane, supernatural Bible prophecies were a factor. This casts an ominous pall over the needless war that has killed more than 4,000 young Americans and cost U.S. taxpayers perhaps $1 trillion.
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Postby Wing-Zero » Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:01 pm

Lol, that sounds like a bad parody of Dogma.
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Postby Nesaie » Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:08 pm

It's too bad that the article is talking about reality, not Dogma.

It's awkward to say openly, but now-departed President Bush is a religious crackpot, an ex-drunk of small intellect who "got saved." He never should have been entrusted with power to start wars.
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Postby Wing-Zero » Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:06 pm

Nesaie wrote:
It's awkward to say openly, but now-departed President Bush is a religious crackpot, an ex-drunk of small intellect who "got saved." He never should have been entrusted with power to start wars.


Oh well, we've had worse.
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Postby Nesaie » Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:04 pm

When? Who?

Stop with this "relativist" idea. "Well, this pollution isn't as bad as...(fill in the blank).

Bush Junior was insane, still is and so is most of his old administration, including Condi, Cheney, Rummy, etc.

Gog? Magog? The last I read about that was in the old forum in the CONSPIRACY forum. The last illegitimate president actually believed in that? No wonder he was never elected!

I want my Republic back!

Where are the old Bush supporters? Have they scurried like cockroaches when the lights get turned on?
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Postby Wing-Zero » Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:43 pm

Nesaie wrote:When? Who?


Hoover, Polk, and Lincoln come to mind.

Stop with this "relativist" idea. "Well, this pollution isn't as bad as...(fill in the blank).


No.

I want my Republic back!


Get your gun and march your happy ass to capital hill, and I'll follow you.

Where are the old Bush supporters? Have they scurried like cockroaches when the lights get turned on?


Taking a nap? I'm sure they'll be around to find some spin for this.
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Postby Nesaie » Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:58 pm

Do you think? OK, this is all debatable. :D (AKA moot) Shall we start with Hoover? I'm not a Lincoln fan, but I'm not sure I'd say he was worse than jr. This sounds fun, shall we explore? :D
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Postby Wing-Zero » Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:14 pm

Nesaie wrote:Do you think? OK, this is all debatable. :D (AKA moot) Shall we start with Hoover? I'm not a Lincoln fan, but I'm not sure I'd say he was worse than jr. This sounds fun, shall we explore? :D


Hoover made the Great Depression worse than it could have been (although Coolidge is the one who started it), and wasted millions at the time with BS programs trying to fix it.

Polk did nothing to try and ward off the upcoming problems between the South and the North, and never once touched the idea of slavery even though it was a very prominent subject at the time. Hell, the only good thing he did was have the balls to stand up to Mexico, even though England kicked him square in the same spot.

Lincoln, well. He started an unconstitutional war, suspended Habeas Corpus, and pretty much screwed our largest area of production.

Not to mention made the South what it is today... a cesspool.
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Postby Aquatank » Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:23 pm

Its not a surprise to me, if you look carefully at Hardcore neocons, PNAC, Heritage Foundation, and rightwing fundamentalist evangelical Christians supporting the rightwing you will find avery common thread, they are almost all believers in the heretical theology of Dispensationalism . In this regard they are similar and just as dangerous as those who wait and attempt to hasten through violence the arrival of the Final Imam.
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Postby Cole_Trickle » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:07 am

There are many accounts of things Bush has done that people would simply never believe, they've been written about, usually in obscure off the beaten path places. MSM would never in a million years be allowed to comment on anything near this level of insight into the mind of a Puppet, it would destroy their empire. One built of myth and manipulation, rooted in influence and exploitation.

I'll always, I mean ALWAYS marvel at their abilities to affect so many people all at once through TEE VEE or Radio and get them to buy into WHATEVER they are trying to spin, or sell in mass quantity. The Key is to have a MANIAC, or SOMEONE willing to sell out for power and fame, allowing themselves to be manipulated into the space between a " ROCK and a Hard place " No way out.

Obviously Bush is the Former, and the current PUPPET the latter. JMHO but it sure looks like Bo has taken up residence and will be kept busy chasing manufactured events that will play out in the PUBLIC FORUM so the Masters can position themselves for another stage of CHANGE behind the scenes.

Dose anyone really believe that Bush was Qualified for Office? Anyone here believe that Kerry was " REALLY INTERESTED " in being President? :lol: :lol: Don't taze me bro! It couldn't be any more obvious to the well informed, educated, critical thinking human being. Could it?

This has all become a sick and twisted game, and the people are tied down by everyday life in general. So they get by with it, knowing full well that people in general are too busy to really care despite what they say, not enough anyway to really matter much.

They had a meeting in the White House where Bush, when asked about an important decision, said that he needed to Pray and that God would guide him in the right direction and that God would have a strong influence on HIM in regard to tough decisions. :lol: :lol:

Can you imagine the faces on those who were in that room when he said that? :shock: :shock:

To think that there are that many who blindly follow can only be attributed to the job that the PTB have done on the Human Mind as a whole. Utterly amazing!

The simple notion that the MOON LANDINGS may have been a hoax, or that Lee Harvey MIGHT not have been the only shooter can quickly be dismissed simply due to the job the PTB have done on most of the latest generations ability to THINK for themselves. So when you think of it being POSSIBLE, that the leader of the Free World so to speak, might just have been BATSHIT KRAZY you're quickly pigeonholed into a big box of NUTS. It's simple because of the mass numbers of people who either " DON'T CARE " or really are " TOO DUMB " to even think freely, let alone ask questions.

Dumb because they've been conditioned to freely and willingly accept the " PLANTED " peer pressure OP. This makes them very very gullible, only they can't see it because all of this stuff is just crazy anyway, Right. It's not real, only enough people are led to believe that it is which in turn INFLUENCES enough of the others to control the majority. That is there goal.

EXAMPLE: Jesse Ventura. Ask him about 9-11, see what he says, in the next breath ask him about it being possible that Wellstone was murdered, see what he says. :lol: :lol:

He's the next tool in the shed for the PTB~~Mark my words. Check out his new gig. It'll flat out blow you away when you stop and think about it.

He's 100% clear on some things, and not sure about other things, yet we all know that you can't have it both ways. So WTF gives?

The real world just doesn't work like that and it never will simply because it never has.

Is it Possible that Jr really is crazy, I mean really nuts, for real. The common answer would be" " Well hell you'd have to be to wanna be President in the first place " :lol: :lol: Next question: Pity some just refuse to see this, while others just never will.

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