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Postby rath » Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:36 am

HMA Ships Sydney and Ballarat, will arrive in New York on Sunday for a four-day visit, as part of a round-the-world trip to promote Australia.

New York is giving the Australians the VIP treatment, inviting them to promote the tour on the ‘Astrovision Screen’ in Times Square.

The Australians have been given not one, but two, chances to star on the coveted big screen: There will be a 15-second segment promoting the ship’s open day, which will be seen four times every hour for the duration of the four-day visit; as well as a 30-minute live feed of a photo shoot with members of both ships’ companies in Times Square, which will be seen by around one-and-a-half million people.

HMAS Sydney’s Commanding Officer, Captain Peter Leavy, says the airtime was unexpected but most welcome. “This is a great honour and a fantastic opportunity for both the Navy and the Australian people,” Captain Leavy said. “The last time a RAN warship visited New York was HMAS Hobart in 1976.”

The visit will also include a VIP tour of Ground Zero and the Tribute Centre, where both ships’ Commanding Officers will join Commander Australian Fleet, Rear Admiral Nigel Coates AM, RAN and other dignitaries. Rear Admiral Coates will lay a wreath on behalf of the Royal Australian Navy in memory of those that lost their lives on 11 September, 2001.

New York marks the first of three Great White Fleet reciprocal port visits for Sydney and Ballarat. Following New York, the ships will visit Baltimore and Norfolk before visiting the Caribbean.

The Australian frigates will be open to the public at the Manhattan Cruise Terminal at Pier 88 on 21 July, providing Americans with the chance to mix with some Aussies.

Northern Trident 09 is a six-month international deployment aimed at supporting Australian Government priorities in Western Europe, North America, and West and North Asian countries.




New York | July 20, 2009

IT is rare for foreign warships to enter New York Harbour, sail past the Statue of Liberty and come to rest alongside the Manhattan cityscape.

But last night, Australian warships HMAS Sydney and HMAS Ballarat had a point to make during a triumphant entrance. New York will be their temporary home for four days.

On the giant Astrovision screen in Times Square, a 15-second advertisement inviting New Yorkers to an open day for the ships at Pier 88 will play four times every hour for the duration of the stay. Some of the ships' 400 crew will be seen on the Times Square screen during a 30-minute live feed.

Kevin Rudd hopes the visit of the two Anzac-class guided missile frigates will be a powerful reminder of Australia's bond with the US.

The visit is much more, though. It is steeped in history, and rates as Australia's reciprocal way of marking the centenary of former US president Theodore Roosevelt's Great White Fleet of 16 battleships that sailed into Sydney Harbour in 1908.

Australia's chief naval attache in Washington, Commodore Vince Di Pietro, said: "The Prime Minister is keen to underpin the strength of the relationship and say, 'You come to our place, and we'll come to yours'."

When the Great White Fleet came to Australia, up to 500,000 people lined Sydney Harbour to get a glimpse. They flocked from faraway country towns. Named because they were painted white, the fleet had set out on Mr Roosevelt's orders to demonstrate US naval might, especially to an emerging rival, Japan.

For Australia's then prime minister, Alfred Deakin, an advocate of creating an independent navy and not relying on the British admiralty, the arrival of the US fleet provided political ammunition. Three years later the Australian navy was born.

The US last year commemorated the 1908 centenary by sending two battleships to Sydney, the USS McCain and USS Shoup. Now it is Australia's turn - the last warship to visit New York was the HMAS Hobart in 1976.

At a later reception on board the Sydney, the great grandsons of Deakin and Roosevelt are to comment on the visit and their ancestors' ambitions.

Phil Scanlan, Australia's consul-general in New York, said Mr Rudd had initiated the "once-in-a-century visit". It was a fitting response to the US's Great White Fleet celebrations last year, he said.

The ships entered New York Harbour accompanied by USS Mahan, and moored at the Manhattan cruise terminal at Pier 88.

Australian forces have served with US forces in every significant military conflict over the past 100 years.

HMAS Sydney's commanding officer, Captain Peter Leavy, said the airtime for the Australian navy at Times Square was "a great honour and a fantastic opportunity".

HMAS Sydney, is the fourth ship to carry the name. The first HMAS Sydney sank the German cruiser Emden in World War I. The second, which sank three enemy ships in World War II, was later sunk with all 645 hands lost during a battle with the German raider Kormoran, which also sank during the battle.

HMAS Ballarat, launched in 2002, is the second to bear the name.
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Postby Dreadful » Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:03 pm

Yeah well our navy next to yours looks like a couple of blokes going fishing in a rowboat :lol:

But we will and have fought well next to you in many of the god forsaken places it's been asked of us..... and I feel this visit is our way of saying that hasn't changed 8-)
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Postby Tairaa » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:59 pm

Yeah well our navy next to yours looks like a couple of blokes going fishing in a rowboat


Rath is Australian too, Dreadful.
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Postby chiselray » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:01 pm

good point sro :lol:
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Postby Dreadful » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:22 pm

Ahh ok I don't know who's who anymore I missed the whole changeover :oops: ..... just replace yours with " the American " .... and rowboat with " tinnie " :D
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Postby Tairaa » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:10 am

Yeah the Americans have a huge "defence" force alright, their navy is pretty impressive along with their airforce, the technology... Oh man. You guys seen the 30mm gattling gun they're developing for the purpose of destroying incoming missiles/rockets...

30mm is like, a big bullet..
9mm=0.35 inchs, so .15 inchs short of a .50 calibre

30mm would be in excess of a full inch in diameter.
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Postby Nesaie » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:32 pm

According to this website: http://www.truthandpolitics.org/military-US-world.php

The US is the top military spender at 281 billion in 1999. Next up is China at 88.9 billion.

Australia and Canada aren't even shown in this graph. Then again, Canada only has a sailboat and 2,000 beavers in their navy. :P

With that kind of funding, it's amazing that a terrorist attack could ever happen in the US. Obviously, these guys are incompetent and overpaid. I'd really like my money back. These servants aren't doing their job correctly. It's time to fire them.
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Postby Wing-Zero » Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:00 pm

Nesaie wrote:According to this website: http://www.truthandpolitics.org/military-US-world.php

The US is the top military spender at 281 billion in 1999. Next up is China at 88.9 billion.

Australia and Canada aren't even shown in this graph. Then again, Canada only has a sailboat and 2,000 beavers in their navy. :P

With that kind of funding, it's amazing that a terrorist attack could ever happen in the US. Obviously, these guys are incompetent and overpaid. I'd really like my money back. These servants aren't doing their job correctly. It's time to fire them.


Seeing as how it's mostly carriers and fighter jets that we spend money to build, it's really not THAT amazing.
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Postby rath » Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:28 am

Nesaie wrote:According to this website: http://www.truthandpolitics.org/military-US-world.php

The US is the top military spender at 281 billion in 1999. Next up is China at 88.9 billion.

Australia and Canada aren't even shown in this graph. Then again, Canada only has a sailboat and 2,000 beavers in their navy. :P

With that kind of funding, it's amazing that a terrorist attack could ever happen in the US. Obviously, these guys are incompetent and overpaid. I'd really like my money back. These servants aren't doing their job correctly. It's time to fire them.



yhe Australia has not even got a mordern navy ....... no modern air-force ....... & a weak army.

yet Australia controls most of the world's oceans.

I wonder how they do it :D

Australia's total area of ocean kingdom is around 12.6 million sq km, dwarfing the continental landmass of 7.6 million sq km.

Australia has one of largest ocean estates of any nation.


Australia controlled seas and oceans.

pacific ocean

Timor sea

Antarctica & antarctic waters

Coral sea

Tasman sea



Under the Law of the Sea, Australia is entitled to claim an exclusive economic zone. Set at 200 nautical miles from the coastline, it gives the rights to the fish in the water column, the seabed and mineral or petroleum beneath the bottom.

Australia also controls around 70% minerals such as gold, iron, uranium & thorium,
not to mention the largest untapped oil & gas deposits in the world, in Antarctica & the
Great Barrier Reef.

As we know

The USA has the largest navy in the world. :lol:

Which is strange for a country that is landlocked between Mexico & Canada. :roll:




Where as right on Australia's door step is China with a population of sum 2 Billion.

Indonesia with a population of around 1.95694531 Billion.

Singapore ....... India ....... ect ect ect.


Makes you wonder what Australia is doing or what Australia has that prevents these nations from attacking Australia.


Hell the USA was attacked on 9-11 by a handful of guys from a 3erd world country & couldnt stop it.

Australia has 2/3erds of the worlds population just a stones throw away.
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Postby Wing-Zero » Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:08 pm

It's not landlocked. Landlocked means it's not touching an ocean.

We touch two oceans.

Use a different word.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Landlock

Makes you wonder what Australia is doing or what Australia has that prevents these nations from attacking Australia.


1) You have nothing of value to them that can't be got from trading, and 2) The second they tried to send anything threatening over to you they'd have us and half of Europe bombing them to oblivion.

You think you can fight off China's 375 million fit and ready soldiers? Hardly.

Hell, they could probably draft the rest of their population and throw them into the ocean to make a bridge to you.

Edit: Do you guys even have an carrier?
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