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Postby Lashmar » Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:33 pm

Tairaa wrote:The government of Afghanistan wants our help.


did they? :? Given that it came from you I'll take your word on it. ;) :)

I haven't checked, but does the Rhodesian government sanction the use of allied troupes to stabilize the situation?


Doesn't matter. You can't go about saying you help this place but not this place just because they didn't ask. I think millions running into SA counts as asking for help though don't you.

Also, when it comes to hunger, there is nothing that can be done in all honesty. Giving them food, WILL make it worse.


Nothing to do with food but the nine year old being sold for sex.
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Postby Tairaa » Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:50 pm

Yeap, that's fucked up. So what we could do (and should, but won't) is go in with special forces, no infantry, and hunt down and kill specifically the ones that profit from the sex trade of unwilling girls (this includes anyone not of age, because they can't willingly enter into something like that).

Kind of like the US tried to do in Somalia, except it wasn't killing the illegal sex trade profiters, but rather the people that caused the hunger because in that instance there was food being brought in but was being horded by some warlord and his militia.

Killing off those who manipulate little girls and boys will stop that, the manipulation of children, but it won't stop the hunger and they will still die. It's sad, but it's a fact of life. Every species on the planet has to gain and in turn depreciate with it's food supply, we here are able to manipulate our food supply to a horrendous extent to support our ever growing population, they cannot. Until such a time as they are able sending food will only draw out suffering.
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Postby mael » Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:37 pm

Tairaa wrote:Except, in Afghanistan we're actually fighting for something.

The men in Afghanistan are pussies who won't stand up for the rights of their women and children, so we have to fight for their rights. What are we gaining from Afghanistan? Drugs? we got drugs from Afghanistan when women had no rights, we're getting drugs from Afghanistan now, there is no difference.

Good that those soldiers died? That's sickening. :roll:


It's none of your damn business what people do in their own lands.

Find the truth yourself. You won't find it in reports which repeat ad nauseum tha the Afghans don't reespek their women. It's lame and the pussies are those who fall for the bs.
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Postby Tairaa » Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:51 pm

What they do in their own lands? So everyone who is born in Afghanistan HAS to be treated the way they are because it's not our country?

If may be none of our business, but an allied government requested assistance with putting down the taliban, who kill people for things that people ought not be killed for. But the fact that it's over there and not here means it's OK?

I guess you and I have a difference of opinion on this one Mael, in my books no matter where you are if you're getting killed off and denied basic rights, or being otherwise bullied you have the right to ask for and accept help if you so choose. We let these imaginary lines divide as as people, people over there don't matter, it's their country. I am clearly missing the logic, wanna point it out?
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Postby mael » Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:22 am

Tairaa wrote:What they do in their own lands? So everyone who is born in Afghanistan HAS to be treated the way they are because it's not our country? [/quoe]

* That's right. Wise-up. It's their mess so let them sort it out.

If may be none of our business, but an allied government requested assistance with putting down the taliban, who kill people for things that people ought not be killed for. But the fact that it's over there and not here means it's OK?


* It's their country. It isn't your country. It's none of your business what they do in their country.

I guess you and I have a difference of opinion on this one Mael, in my books no matter where you are if you're getting killed off and denied basic rights, or being otherwise bullied you have the right to ask for and accept help if you so choose.


* I suppose if one isn't happy in the country they are in then the onus on them is to change it themselves or to move. But if that person decides to move to another country then he.she'd beter adapt to the new country and the new way of life.

We let these imaginary lines divide as as people, people over there don't matter, it's their country. I am clearly missing the logic, wanna point it out?


* Well you are just fed with the bs media. You don't do much of your own research.

* They told you the war in Afghanistan was because women were getting treated badly. But it transpires to your opaque mind-filters after years and years that it was over drugs! - The control of the opium poppies and for oil-pipelines and the mineral wealth of the region. The women seemed to have been far better off before those stoopid Yanks and the duped Brits decided to 'help' them.

* Now the warlords are more tyrannical than ever, women are treated worse than before, murder and mayhem aren't even newsworthy anymore and they've got porn and McDonalds hamburgers for their pains.

* The West was completely ripped-off by the manipulated media so as to make some already rich criminals into even wealthier ones, and Western military personnel just get back as basket cases or they get minced over there and become part of the infrastructure (as landfill).
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Postby Tairaa » Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:53 am

* Well you are just fed with the bs media. You don't do much of your own research.


Is that a fact? Since you know so much about me and all. :roll:

* They told you the war in Afghanistan was because women were getting treated badly. But it transpires to your opaque mind-filters after years and years that it was over drugs!


Drugs, which we got before, and which we're getting now!

The women seemed to have been far better off before those stoopid Yanks and the duped Brits decided to 'help' them.

Now they can walk the streets without a man, they can not cover up 100% of their bodies with clothe also. Girls are allowed to go to school. That seems to me, like a bit of an improvement upon their living conditions.

* The West was completely ripped-off by the manipulated media so as to make some already rich criminals into even wealthier ones,
That's how our society works, it's shitty, and unfair.

But I've got news for you, those 5 soldiers that died, it's not their fault any more then it is 5 people from their country.



Using your logic Mael, where we out of line when we declared war on Hitler? Well the French asked for help, but screw them it's their country. Same with your homeland, they were having the sh*t bombed out of them, should we simply have left all of your women and children to be killed by the Germans?
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Postby hxxx » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:06 pm

What gov't in Afghanistan?

OMG. You really believe that Afghani womens' lives have improved in the last 5+ years?
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Postby Dark-Samus » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:08 pm

It's none of your damn business what people do in their own lands.

Find the truth yourself. You won't find it in reports which repeat ad nauseum tha the Afghans don't reespek their women. It's lame and the pussies are those who fall for the bs.


No damn country respects their woman more or less.
Sweden,Canada and some other might be the leading countires on these matters but still not 100% yet either.
So blame the Afghans as much as you want but guys who doesn´t take women seriously when they get mad,frsutrated etc etc are as bad as the rest of these idiots.

Stop bringing up excuses!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Postby Tairaa » Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:42 pm

hxxx wrote:What gov't in Afghanistan?

OMG. You really believe that Afghani womens' lives have improved in the last 5+ years?

Now they can walk the streets without a man, they can not cover up 100% of their bodies with clothe also. Girls are allowed to go to school. That seems to me, like a bit of an improvement upon their living conditions.

Yeap. Being allowed to go to school, over being an object that will be sold to a husband, without the right to walk the streets without him. Seems... Slightly better...
But hey, since you think it's not, why don't we do the same thing here if it's not that much worse then out system?


As far as it being their country, I don't find that to be a viable reason to stay out of it at all. If massive riots broke out in Japan with a hardened militia versus your police/defence force I would be intrigued to hear your opinion on the matter, when your children are not allowed to be schooled, or walk around without you. Not to mention any of the crimes they commit against people.
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Postby mael » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:44 pm

Tairaa wrote:Yeap. Being allowed to go to school, over being an object that will be sold to a husband, without the right to walk the streets without him. Seems... Slightly better...
But hey, since you think it's not, why don't we do the same thing here if it's not that much worse then out system?

* You take the bait hook-line and sinker. American women can walk the streets practically naked if they like and go to school and are they happier? :lol: :lol: :lol:

* The lives of Afghani women is far worse now than ever before. Who says hey can walk the streets without cover? Not the people who enforce the rules, that's for sure.

* Stupid Yanks meddling in the business of others as usual and the reason is to occupy and control - whaever flavour they may say it is for your consumption.

As far as it being their country, I don't find that to be a viable reason to stay out of it at all. If massive riots broke out in Japan with a hardened militia versus your police/defence force I would be intrigued to hear your opinion on the matter, when your children are not allowed to be schooled, or walk around without you. Not to mention any of the crimes they commit against people.


* You'll wise-up in your own time.

* Let me ask you a question:- What happens if you break up a marital spat? Ans:- They both turn on you and you end up with a black eye and go off with your tail between your legs saying 'I was only trying to help.'

* I'll obey the rules wherever I happen to be and if I can't tolerate them then I will move.

* Point in case:- Your neighbours to the south and their pals across the Atlantic are getting maimed and killed by those people they have been conned into believing they are helping and this will NEVER CHANGE. They don't want you in the M.E. and they will do all they can for as long as it takes to get you out and this is quite understandable and right.

* And Yanks in Japan are as welcome as a fart at a funeral.

* Sort your own disasters of nations out before you try to help others. The US and those who fall for the bs they print in the news really are the epitome of hypocricy. ie you have no business to tell others how they should live especially bearing in mind the double-standards and chaos in your own neck of the woods in that department.
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