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Postby greeney2 » Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:06 pm

I find it hard to believe the same people who can only muster up Palin being stupid comments, have nothing to say about who they did elect. While Palin was "unfit and not qualified" "a Dumbass" , this is what you got from a Senator instead, who isn't even a Governor of a State 1% the size of Alaska.


Obama: U.S. has 'absolutely not' given OK for Israeli strike on Iran
The president clarifies a statement by Vice President Joe Biden suggesting that the U.S. would stand aside if Israel wanted to launch an attack.
By Paul Richter
2:04 PM PDT, July 7, 2009
Reporting from Washington -- President Obama, issuing an unusual clarification of his vice president's words, said today that his administration has "absolutely not" given its blessing for an Israeli attack on Iran.

Obama said that though Israel has the right to defend itself, U.S. officials have emphasized the need to avoid "major conflict in the Middle East."



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Vice President Joe Biden created a stir Sunday by suggesting that the United States would stand aside if the Israelis wanted to attack.

"Israel can determine for itself -- it's a sovereign nation -- what's in their interest and what they decide to do relative to Iran and anyone else," Biden said on ABC's "This Week."

Biden's words set off a debate over whether the White House was hardening its line on Iran in the wake of Tehran's postelection crackdown, or whether Biden had simply committed a gaffe.


Obama said in a CNN interview today that Biden was merely stating "a categorical fact, which is that we can't dictate to other countries what their security interests are."

But Biden left out another part of the administration's usual formulation: that the United States wants to avoid a military strike because it could destabilize the entire Middle East.

Adm. Michael G. Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, stressed his own concern today about a strike.

"I worry a great deal about the response of a country that gets struck," Mullen said in remarks at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. "How does it end up? Does it get contained, or does it expand?"

Obama's comment was not the first time that administration officials have had to clarify Biden comments that varied from the official line. In April, White House officials struggled to explain that they were not recommending the public avoid airplanes and subways, even though Biden said that he would not want family members to use them because of the threat of swine flu.
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Postby Cole_Trickle » Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:30 pm

I don't find it hard to believe at all, we've already cover the trees for the forest thing about 1 million times now. But again if you insist, Michael Jackson's death ended any and all mainstream media coverage of the stuff in Iran~~THAT'S A FACT GREENEY~~So lets peel back the layers and see if you can follow along, sorry I mean agree.

What happened in Iran destroyed the plan that the G8 had for Iran, it effectively destroyed any and all credibility that the current Government had, IT'S OVER and THAT is a huge win for the Iranian people and an equally huge defeat for the PTB. They are done in Iran and some very very intelligent people are all over it, but you won;t see that on your local 6 pm news slots out there in Sunny Kalifornia~~no freaking way. Jackson was a blessing to the MSM crew, it ended any coverage of Iran and the brutality carried out by the Police squads. Their only problem was that they underestimated the INTERNET~~CAM CORDERS and PIC PHONES.

I agree with Dunne~~we should have dropped I PHONES on Iraq, not bombs. That my friend is what your Military leaders have been glued to for two weeks straight now. It was hiding right there in plain sight and they never had a clue. I find that amusing, never Mind Biden being out of the loop, or Palin being dumb as a stump, these clowns~~all of them have just witnessed a mass communication of reality like no other in this worlds history. You can deny it all you want but it's a fact THAT THAT my friend is the real story in all of this fluff being cast about.

The PTB just took a huge hit in the Middle eastern region, Biden is just playing his role as the class clown. I can guarantee that behind closed doors things are not so funny on the hill. as you'd like everyone to believe. :lol:

Here have a read: Do yourself a favor and read it through, you can benefit from a dose of reality like no other. ;)

Iran: Step Forward Maj. General Steve Jobs

There is only one revolution tolerable to all men, all societies,
all political systems: revolution by design and invention....

--- R. Buckminster Fuller


by Fintan Dunne - 3rd July, 2009

The recent dramatic events in Iran have indefinitely sidelined the hard-line mullahs. I'm referring to the mullahs of the rabid US neocon cohort and their corresponding absolutists in Iran.

Mere weeks have consigned John McCain's infamous "Bomb, Bomb Iran" to history's lamentable anachronisms. The "collateral damage" of conquest now has a face: Neda's. Millions more Iranian faces join her in our mind. And we like them!

We like, not just: the westernized youths of Tehran. We also like the fearless black-clothed women who took the beatings; who answered back; who gathered the stones to be used against the firearmed Basij.

We even like some of the "towel-head" (see: prejudice, 9/11, Iraq) mullahs. Such as Mehdi Karroubi -striding with arms aloft in defiance; marching to Qoba mosque amidst a cheering, seething mass -yearning for a vote that counts.

We can now even discern the difference between a laudable reformist mullah and his neoconservative compatriots. Our former black and white vision is colored with nuance.

The Iran invasion is indefinitely postponed.


But the paradigm-shifting implications of Iran's uploaded uprising have yet to seep into our geopolitical thinking and strategies. In retrospect, we should have dropped cellphones and laptops on Iraq --then sat back and awaited the inevitable. It would have saved the lives of thousands of US troops and a hundredfold that number of civilian lives in "Saddam's" Iraq.

Admittedly, iPhones aren't cheap, but they come far less expensive than cruise missiles. And every dictatorship deserves to get free weapons of mass communication. Not merely to enable us see every repressive atrocity inflicted by a regime on its population, but to grant the society a communications mirror within which to see itself. And thus to change.

The ethos of Star Trek, series one, was to leave the alien cultures which the Enterprise visited, to resolve their issues of social evolution themselves. (Spock was surely a Democrat!) That ethos ebbed over decades of US foreign 'adventures', and vanished entirely in the wake of 9/11. The eUprising in Iran brings it firmly back into focus.

As the internet and communications revolutions take hold, the microchip is the pragmatists' new weapon of choice. Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and the military-industrial complex are suddenly strategically less relevant than Apple, Nokia and the civilian-electronic complex.



We no longer require a David Petraeus as much as a Steve Jobs.

We need special e-forces to drop anonymizing software such as Tor -deep behind enemy DSL lines.

Repressive regimes around the world are struggling to contain their populations behind electronic Berlin Walls. Battling the insatiable quest for unfettered internet systems. We've already had such a battle in the developed Western economies. The illegal music downloader's won it.

The Pentagon should be talking to the Pirate Bay founders.

'Command and Control' is yielding to 'persuade and network.'

The victims in Tiananmen Square remained largely faceless and the truth took months to be fully documented. In Iran, the victims are being webcast. One victim: Neda --turned from faceless to globally iconic in a matter of hours!

But Iran's events were less a revolution than a social evolution. The regime attempted the tried and trusted tactics of the past. But each bullet turned into a nail in its own coffin. Each blow was a blow to its own legitimacy. Each brutal digitally immortalized second will haunt it to an early grave.

Because the protesters, though seemingly unarmed, were after all very heavily armed -- with weapons the regime did not comprehend. The brave men and women in the streets clustered around their fallen --weapons in hand; recording every moment.

Weapons of mass communication.

Before we invented the mirror, we hardly knew our own faces. Iran has seen its own face, and the consequent evolution has defaced the regime into infamy. The Future beckons and whether it falls in weeks, months or years -it is already tottering, zombified into the Past. As is every fragmented piece of its ethos.


Step forward Maj. General Steve Jobs. Your time has come.

It's is fitting, after all. In the early 1980's, upstart Apple Computer began a process which felled the behemoths of the minicomputer industry and crumpled the unassailable empire of mighty IBM.

Like the Iranian regime, IBM's leaders were incapable of realizing what they were dealing with. Before it was far too suddenly, far too late.

The rEvolution will not merely be televised. It will be digitized; emailed; streamed; tweeted; facebooked; uploaded; downloaded; remixed; scanned; and finally: printed on posters.

Around the world, within another year this change dynamic will pack more punch that a shrinking microchip. Yielding more and more rEvolutionary bang for young bucks.

The rEvolution will be instant!

Then: Over. Before it's begun.


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Postby Dark-Samus » Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:23 am

Palin and Biden are not even 5% of what Michael Jackson was.
Michael is the 21th century Jesus. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Truth doesn´t control you, you control it...
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Postby screamzero » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:30 am

The ethos of Star Trek, series one, was to leave the alien cultures which the
Enterprise visited, to resolve their issues of social evolution
themselves. (Spock was surely a Democrat!)


That above is a truck load of crazy bat guano. I don't know about L. Nimoy, but as
to the above statement, Spock is a conservative.

No to little interference is a stealth conservative resolution for freedom, not a Big
"Gubment", Socialist-Democratic
power grab.

Leave the people be to find their own destiny. RE: The U.S Constitution

I gotta say though, weapons of mass communication is definitely 21st Century
war savvy. Now THAT'S Freedom of speech and Real
power to the people...
Screw '69. Bombs ..er..pods away! 8-)
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Postby greeney2 » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:55 am

Cole if you aren't talking dwon to everyone, its becasue you are telling everyone your endless qualifications as an expert, or what great shape you are in, and how you would take care of business, and save us all. :lol:
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Postby Cole_Trickle » Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:04 am

Blah, Blah, Blah Greeney: Old and tired, broken down, and worn out. I guess the truth is more than you're capable of bearing. Expert~~lol~~your word my friend not mine. Most experts sit in the box seats, or second row @ ringside, some on the fifty yard line. Since I've actually been in the arena I guess that disqualifies me from expert status because I've got hands on experience.

What does that make me Greeney, under or over qualified when it comes to being an EXPERT!
:P :P :P

You need to read more, talk less, that would go far to lift the haze you seem to walk around in.

Cole


PS. Didn't you just piss all over someone for being Rude a while back? They have a word for that Sir! :lol:
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Postby greeney2 » Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:58 am

Since I've actually been in the arena I guess that disqualifies me from expert status because I've got hands on experience.

What does that make me Greeney, under or over qualified when it comes to being an EXPERT!


I was thinking more in the line of blow hard know it all! :lol:

You need to read more, talk less, that would go far to lift the haze you seem to walk around in.


Thats not haze its Thermite smoke! :lol:
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Postby Tairaa » Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:15 pm

Absolutely zero baiting in here..
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"George Bush says he speaks to god every day, and christians love him for it. If George Bush said he spoke to god through his hair dryer, they would think he was mad. I fail to see how the addition of a hair dryer makes it any more absurd."
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Postby Cole_Trickle » Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:25 pm

r u sure it's not moon dust? :o

Nothing wrong with knowing/learning a great deal through life experience now is there.

Hell Greeney I was probably all of five when I learned not to piss straight into the wind, sadly some still try it even well into their fifties :lol:

Iran is all but lost to the G8. LET'S HEAR AGAIN ABOUT HOW BAD IT WOULD BE TO BE OVER THERE compared to here in the USA. :roll: :roll: The type of analogy you'd make! Hell the women over there have bigger balls than 9 out of 10 of the men here in the states.

What was it, you guys~~think Bush was bad :lol: :lol:

Biden called Obama literate and intelligent when Obama won the election in Illinois, funny he gets chosen as VEEPEE~~~Any of this make any sense to you Greeney ;)

McCain and Palin + Iran = the Movie Dumb and Dumber only retitled " Dumber and Dumbest " how can we count the ways.

Did you read Fintans piece? Tell the truth Greeney~~yes or no ?

Do you know why Bush would never give orders to shoot people who protest in this country? Come on Greeney surely you know, being so connected and all. :lol: :lol: Neither will Obama, or any other Clown who seeks office~~~think real hard there Greeney I'm sure it'll come to you in due time. Lift that Fog!

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Postby boastonline » Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:06 pm

You convinced me. Having Joe Biden "with his mistakes" as a Vice President is a big mistake. I think the president probably thinks this also. Hopefully he will resign because I doubt he will get fired. Or maybe he should stick to pre-written responses.
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