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Postby rath » Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:34 am

Lashmar wrote:
Wing-Zero wrote:Or in Laymen's Terms...


Bloody questions can’t be answered. I always, always enjoy when someone makes a F*** up and then they just ignore any questions after that. That’s why I like talking to Rath. :lol:



true that.

you keep fuc'n up & then you just avoid me after i call you out.

Or you start posting reply's as one of your duel personalities. :oops:

The lengths you/es go lashmar to ignore any questions about your (FAS) stupidity.

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Postby Lashmar » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:11 pm

rath wrote:Or you start posting reply's as one of your duel personalities. :oops:


And please go ahead and tell me one of them. ;) You wont get one becuase I don't have any you twat. :roll:
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Postby orangetom1999 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:37 pm

adamwarlock2099 ,

The objectifying of women started way back when Adam wouldn't be submissive to Lilith and god banished his first wife he made for Adam and gave her the submissive and boring Eve. So really you can blame god for all this sh*t.


LOL LOL LOL, Public Schooling/Public Education??? ie...a television/movie education??

From page 1 of this thread. ...

Any of you ever take a good look at what is going on out here with today's young people. Who or what is actually raising them. I refer to this line from Lashmar on page 1.

Men nowadays have very little respect for anything. I don’t understand what goes on inside there (very stupid) mind. It’s a fact that you get more respect by being respectful.

I don’t know if it’s me but I don’t go around calling women “whores” and the likes.


An awful lot of young men are today being raised by television/movies and their mothers. Some of you might want to think this through a whole lot more.
The same could be said for alot of what passes for females today as well. Think this through too.

As to calling women whores...sluts ..et al. Most of my experience is with women using this term on each other. Especially when another women in competition is giving it away cheaper and easier than another is willing to give it away. It is lowering one woman's value in the marketplace by giving it away for less than top price/value.

I don't approve of the term being used by either males or females. But I do know that competition in the social marketplace among women or females can be very fierce and uncivilized.
Literally wildlife. It is just that it happens often on a level not seen by alot of males...but the females recognize it very quickly. In this manner it could be said to be very occult.

Women objectify each other in competition. Once again...this usually happens in a manner not seen or known by most men..with an "oil shortage " blocking their thinking capabilities.

One of the rare privileges that happened to me was when I accompanied a woman to her company christmas party. They had rented the ball room in a local hotel. I escorted this older woman to the gala event but I am not much of a social type. When I got the opportunity I drifted out to the lobby and sat in one of the chairs.

I soon realized that this was a very opportune location to observe "Wildlife In It's Natural Habitat."

What I observed was a group of five women conversing in the lobby and watching other couples or singles coming to this very gala company event. What I saw among them and in their eyes..was a very harsh, judgemental, feral, wild, uncivilized pecking order being established.

These five women were not watching the men arriving but closely scrutinizing the women. They quickly gave each arriving female the nod of approval or shake of disapproval.
They were "objectifying" the other women.

I knew that two of these women had degrees..from colleges so one could falsely assume they had grown out of such conduct and were more mature than that ...not so.
Education does nothing to drive out such uncivilized behavior. It only allows some to hide it most of the time ...with this type of exception..where they think no one notices it.

I quickly realized I had the best seat in the house. I got to see it uncensored..unfiltered..raw.
And it was women objectifying each other.

Women can often pull this objectification crap over on men because most men are incredibly stupid about it and think falsely that women are above this kind of objectifying nonsense.
Unthinking men can easily be made to feel guilty unto silence while women play through on a males stupidity. The women are mostly correct in this. Men can be incredibly stupid about this.

Women do objectify men as well..but use a different standard than for other women. They objectify men as success objects..not necessarily sex objects as is done by men to women.

I know this because as a rule..most women do not marry or date down the economic ladder. They are more inclined to do so up the economic ladder. Men on the other hand ..often date down the economic ladder. Women are more inclined in objectification to work their way up the food chain..not down it.

adamwarlock2099 ,

Well some men don't like to be dominated, so I guess for them she's not the ideal woman.

For me though . . . I'd be "yes ma'am!"


You do understand how occult practices and occult principles work..yes?? Subtlety ..seduction et al.

Alot of women work in the occult sphere..unknown and unseen by those they intend to control. It works best this way. All they have to do is substitute a mans play quietly and privily ..with one of her own...without him being all that aware of it...and a man will often run the touchdown for her. He never knows it is because her girlfriends kids have this or that ...or her girlfriend has this or that..or they saw it on TV..or in a movie ..in the newspaper..etc etc. He thinks it is his idea...that he is rescuing his family ..his woman..etc.

Be very very careful what you think is being dominated. It is often not done how most males think it is done. For a man to catch it he has to teach himself to think outside the box. It helps to be trained to spot a counterfeit...or occult principal.

mael,

US women have only themselves to blame.


Well said here. But it does not help that so many males suffer from abominable ignorance about most things female...and even male things. The males have accepted counterfeits ..even from their women..so how would they ever know the difference?...the males I mean.
A man who can be easily seduced by a counterfeit...can be lead..he is not properly leading..he is being lead...and often without him being aware of it...or that a counterfeit has taken place.

mael you also posted...

*** I'm just saying. But I reckon that you won't do anything and it's most likely too late anyway so you'll just get more masculine in your ways and look more like them. US women!!! Look what you've done! And I suppose you want to say it's all the men's fault!

How terribly sad.


American women as a whole don't want to be more masculine..but they think it is entirely ok ..if the males are feminized. This is in fact what is happening out here...the males are being feminized. You can see this in many of the posts on different boards.
Many males out here are like many women ..defining themselves by dress..gadgets....glimmer and bling...all mostly outside appearances. Inside these males are excellent consumers and know the latest products..the latest jokes, movies...and social life of stars.
What does one expect to happen with so many broken homes and children raised mostly by women ..which means often children raised in front of a television set or a movie screen??

Oh..and Lashmar,

Politics is a very very feminine occupation. It is ideal for women..and also males raised on occult doctrine and dogma. In politics one can take credit for what one has not done...and put blame on others without being seen behind the system. In short...politics is very occult and feminine.
I don't necessarily mean feminine as in female...but instead feminine as in worldly..after the power of this world...after the god of this world. Politics is the business of selling, bartering, or trading, the souls of others for lucre.

Dark-Samus,

Because the west has lost the good values and only concentrates on who is the best-looking,who has the most money, who is the best in bed.


I would be hard pressed to debate this point with you because it is pretty much what I think as well. We have become good consumers here in the west...not necessarily good people.

Well...I suppose that is enough for one post.

I do have a question for both the males here on this thread as well as the females...to help with all your objectifying here.

What is the important commodity a wise knowlegable woman brings to a wise knowlegable man??
A commodity that if it is properly done..is capable of putting a knowlegable man on a drug for which he never wants to get off it??

Some of you should have enough gnosis to be able to correctly objectify this answer.

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Postby orangetom1999 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:36 am

Wow!!

I do have a question for both the males here on this thread as well as the females...to help with all your objectifying here.

What is the important commodity a wise knowlegable woman brings to a wise knowlegable man??
A commodity that if it is properly done..is capable of putting a knowlegable man on a drug for which he never wants to get off it??

Some of you should have enough gnosis to be able to correctly objectify this answer.

Thanks,
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Three days??

No takers on this one. Wow!! Very interesting. Wonder how long this is going to go on??

I will be watching for this.

Thanks,
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Postby sheye » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:52 am

What is the important commodity a wise knowlegable woman brings to a wise knowlegable man??


I would want to say love,and humilty...but

may I muse on it for a 24 hour period...I think I have something deeper that needs to be expressed....

thankyou, for both a wonderful post,and the "time" frame for which we may ponder that question ,carefully, and with needed wisdom required,
to answer with any true value.

great question by the way....very good
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Postby sheye » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:02 pm

hmmmm..Commodity?

I don't see them as commodities...

but here is an answer before the "musing" is done....

she would offer strength,when he feels weak..
hope when he is feeling hopelessness
courage when he is facing fear
Faith..when he has lost all faith

(by the way..how long is this answer allowed to become :? )

just checkin....cause I haven't even really finished the musing part...
but I am trying to understand the "commodity" reference.
I think I might have an idea as to how you are reffering to it.??
not sure :oops:
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Postby orangetom1999 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:04 pm

Sheye,

may I muse on it for a 24 hour period...I think I have something deeper that needs to be expressed....


Absolutely...yes..definitely. No problem. The answer is indeed deeper ..yet simple in itself.

24 hours or more..no problem.

In your follow up post to this one I quote above...you are getting there...definitely. Keep musing. It is indeed a commodity..but not in the physical sense of which we so often think... not in the flesh per se.

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Postby sandra » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:33 pm

American women as a whole don't want to be more masculine..but they think it is entirely ok ..if the males are feminized. This is in fact what is happening out here...the males are being feminized. You can see this in many of the posts on different boards.
Many males out here are like many women ..defining themselves by dress..gadgets....glimmer and bling...all mostly outside appearances. Inside these males are excellent consumers and know the latest products..the latest jokes, movies...and social life of stars.
What does one expect to happen with so many broken homes and children raised mostly by women ..which means often children raised in front of a television set or a movie screen??


Yes and there are women that are very aware of this. The articles I've read about the effects of birth control alone in the water systems,,,unreal. One article quoted a woman from one of the drug companies stating she knew full well what some of the chemical influences were on men and the 'feminization' aspects that she had not a care about it. Drug companies of course are not willing to take repsonsibility for the affects and people that use them are just not aware, let alone the ones that don't and still continue to drink from the water supply. I Read that males test levels are dropping more than 1% per year,,,this has been going for about 17 or so years now.

Well here is one article I just dug up.

http://www.holology.com/hormone.html


Well just wanted to make that small comment, more the science end of things, not sure it fits in this thread, but it still relates.
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Postby sheye » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:25 pm

Some of you should have enough gnosis to be able to correctly objectify this answer.


hmmm...gnosis...(mystical wisdom?)

sounds a lil too uummm.... "occultish " to me

is occult bad orangetom....?? :? :lol: ;)

by the way tom,you're question refects more about your character, thinking that LOVE can be measured like a commodity...hmmmm :?

what can a wise woman give a wise man??? as far as commodity...viewed through gnostic wisdom

decided to quit musing on this orangetom,
I have the answer that satisfies me
and there it will stay, close to my heart where it should be.

Top of the rest of the day to ya all(waves goodbye)
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Postby orangetom1999 » Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:37 am

Yes and there are women that are very aware of this. The articles I've read about the effects of birth control alone in the water systems,,,unreal. One article quoted a woman from one of the drug companies stating she knew full well what some of the chemical influences were on men and the 'feminization' aspects that she had not a care about it. Drug companies of course are not willing to take repsonsibility for the affects and people that use them are just not aware, let alone the ones that don't and still continue to drink from the water supply. I Read that males test levels are dropping more than 1% per year,,,this has been going for about 17 or so years now.

Well here is one article I just dug up.

http://www.holology.com/hormone.html


Well just wanted to make that small comment, more the science end of things, not sure it fits in this thread, but it still relates.


Sandra,
I never heard any of this stuff about the water feminizing the males. I have heard that there is bad stuff in the water. I do know that when one travels across the land...there are variations in the quality of the water..in some places ..very significant variations.

Thanks for the info.


Sheye,

Ok..I will tell you the secret and something extra here about this and how some women think and also dont think men can think it through. They would be correct in this with most males.

The commodity a knowledgable woman brings to a knowledgable man is....

Peace. Not Piece.

Peace means that a man can come home to a place where he is safe from the outside world. Protected. This place is made so by a womans efforts/labors...out of understanding...knowledge..wisdom. Not wisdom of the heart per se..but the wisdom of God.
He is safe there..not a place of chaos run amok by the television...the children, the inlaws, outlaws..and anything and everything from the outside world. The children are not running the show here..unto chaos.
A man has a place to come to after his labors ...a place in which in his way...he comes in first place...in Peace.
I am not saying here to put the woman and children last...but to include the man in first place. A man should not come in last place while being expected to give first fruits to good or excellent consumers. Understand now??

A man who knows the value of this can be put on a drug. A drug for which he never wants to come off of it. This drug will establish a good womans value long after her biology runs out....and it hits midnight...Cinderella.

I will illustrate this for you by explaining a conversation between myself my friend from across the river.

I went over to see him one day after his wife had passed away. He had gotten back on the dating scene and was seeing different women.
As we got do discussing this..he told me he had finally figured out what it is which was so wrong about so many women and their thinking. They just did not get it while viewing the world through their devout female religious prisms.

They were looking at him as a success object. They were looking at his house, swimming pool, large tract of land, garage..etc etc...and the fact that it was all paid up...no liens on anything.

They were looking at what they could get for themselves and their children.
They were not looking at what they needed to bring him or what was missing from his life.
The assumption they all made was that supplying his "oil shortage" and or cooking him a meal once in awhile was the same as marking out territory. That this was all that was required for a shot at the title..the goods ..for themselves and their children.
The assumption is made with almost all of them ..that this is the same thing as commitment. It is not. It is more than he deserves. It is the same as the best years of their lives....not.

We discovered together that almost no women know this. What is worse ..almost no men know this as well. So how can a male properly lead a woman...she will instead lead him. She will work quickly to switch his program with hers and think this is entirely normal..even justified.

This is a formula for no Peace. Piece is a cheap worthless substitute. So is "The Best years of her life" It is Ersatz.

Hope this helps,
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