by greeney2 » Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:12 am
The KKK is about intolerance, bigotry, and hate, and what is more bigoted than discrimination against race or religion, if its against Jews or Christians, hating them, and spreading open hostility, and provoking? What you call debating, comes off alot more like provoking, with the atheism attitudes. You are not exactly embracing the rights of others in a free country, you are intolerant of it, and you do not need to hang someone, or commit a violant act, to be a bigot in life. They do all of it(KKK), but not even every KKK member commits crimes. If your bigotry is limited to verbal expression and attitude, it is none the less still intolerant, prejudice, and bigoted twards religion, KKK or otherwise. There are plenty of white sepremisists who do not go the distance of crimes, but are just as much sympathizers and support the concept. They go though life hating jews, African Americans, other minorieties, Gays, even if they never commit a crime, they are bigots.
I side steped nothing in my Allah answer, you just do not get it. You just want me to give you some test or event that is acceptable proof you can further twist around. It is a different culture, it is not my culture, nor my question in life about God. You talk about hypotheticals if Greeney was born in a Muslim culture, the overwhelming common link in religion is that those born into one, usually are raised within it by their parents. That is normal! Even you and Mrs. H are raising your child within your beliefs, which includes no religion. You even said you would do whatever you had to to persuade him from religion if he found it. If you debating here is example how you would do that, being relentless, God help him is he finds a girl who lets him find religion. EH says if a Christian raised a child within a church, or my Mother had me Baptisted I was brainwashed and religion was shoved down our throats. In some cases its probably true, maybe his grandmother was like that he talked about, and even in my case what kid never had a day, he didn't want to sit and listen to a sermon. But what kid would have never brushed his teeth, or eated vegatables, if it was the kids decision? There is a difference between brainwashing and education.
The only thing we will all agree on is neither side is going to sway the other. We have all dug in our spurs why we believe the way we do, and we have all shown how set in our opinions we are. We only know one thing for sure, nobody gets the proof of God in Life, either way, we only get clues, where some do not see any of them, others see many of them. Nobody is in a hurry to leave this life to find out for a while, that may be the only thing we agree on.
