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Postby Ninor » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:13 pm

This article was mentioned in another thread by WZ. I thought the article is important enough and contains enough new/ignored/overlooked evidence to deserve it's own thread.

'Sex by Surprise' at Heart of Assange Criminal Probe

(Dec. 2) -- The international manhunt for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in a sex-crime investigation in Sweden apparently stems from a condom malfunction.

Assange's London attorney, Mark Stephens, told AOL News today that Swedish prosecutors told him that Assange is wanted not for allegations of rape, as previously reported, but for something called "sex by surprise," which he said involves a fine of 5,000 kronor or about $715.

Assange is the subject of an international manhunt, as a result of Interpol issuing a "red notice," a warrant indicating the person should be arrested with a view to extradition.

"We don't even know what 'sex by surprise' even means, and they haven't told us," Stephens said, just hours after Sweden's Supreme Court rejected Assange's bid to prevent an arrest order from being issued against him on allegations of sex crimes.

"Whatever 'sex by surprise' is, it's only a offense in Sweden -- not in the U.K. or the U.S. or even Ibiza," Stephens said. "I feel as if I'm in a surreal Swedish movie being threatened by bizarre trolls. The prosecutor has not asked to see Julian, never asked to interview him, and he hasn't been charged with anything. He's been told he's wanted for questioning, but he doesn't know the nature of the allegations against him."

The strange tale of Assange's brief flings with two Swedish women during a three-day period in mid-August -- and decisions by three different prosecutors to first dismiss rape allegations made by the women and then re-open the case -- has more twists, turns and conspiracy theories than any of Stieg Larsson's best-sellers.

True, one of Assange's accusers sounds tailor-made for those who think Assange is being set up in Sweden by dark CIA-backed operatives who want him smeared or silenced for his document dumping with WikiLeaks. She's a 31-year-old blond academic and member of the Social Democratic Party who's known for her radical feminist views, once wrote a treatise on how to take revenge against men and was once thrown out of Cuba for subversive activities.

But others say Assange, who denies any wrongdoing and says the sex was consensual, may have just run afoul of Sweden's unusual rape laws, which are considered pro-feminist because of the consideration given issues of consent when it comes to sexual activity -- including even the issue of whether a condom was used.

In fact, the current prosecutor, Marianne Ny, who re-opened the case against Assange, has been active in the proposed reforms of Swedish rape laws that would, if passed, involve an investigation of whether an imbalance in power between two people could void one person's insistence that the sex was consensual.

Swedish tabloids and the country's blogosphere have been rife since August with stories and speculation about Assange's accusers, the flip-flopping prosecutors and just what, if any, crime was committed by Assange during sex with the two women.

"He's innocent, that I can tell you," Bjorn Hurtig, Assange's Stockholm-based lawyer, told AOL News today. Hurtig later issued a statement saying the international arrest warrant for Assange is based on "exaggerated grounds."

Assange arrived in Sweden on Aug. 11 to speak at a weekend seminar sponsored by the Social Democratic Party and arranged to stay at a Stockholm apartment belonging to the event organizer, a member of the branch of the party who would become one of Assange's two accusers.

According to a police report obtained by the Daily Mail in August, she and Assange had sex, and at some point the condom broke. While she was apparently not happy about the condom breaking, the two were seen the next day at the seminar, and nothing appeared amiss.

Another woman at the seminar, a 27-year-old art photographer, said in her police statement that she'd come to hear Assange's lecture because of her fascination with him and his work. She can be seen in video footage on the Internet sitting in the front row during Assange's lecture, wearing a pink sweater and snapping pictures of him.

According to the police report, the woman managed to get an invitation to go out for lunch with Assange and his entourage after the seminar. They spent time together before he went back to stay at the event organizer's apartment.

Two days later, on Aug. 16, they reconnected by phone and the woman invited him to her apartment, more than 40 miles outside Stockholm. She paid for the ticket since Assange apparently had no cash and doesn't like to use credit cards because they could be traced.

She complained in her police statement that during the train ride to her hometown, "he paid more attention to his computer rather than me." She also said that by the time they arrived at her apartment, "the passion and excitement seemed to have disappeared."

The woman and Assange also reportedly had sex. According to the Daily Mail account, Assange did not use a condom at least one time during their sexual activity. The New York Times today quoted accounts given by the women to police and friends as saying Assange "did not comply with her appeals to stop when (the condom) was no longer in use."

According to the Swedish tabloid Aftonbladet, the photographer contacted the other woman two days after her assignation with Assange, and the two apparently had a conversation in which it became clear they had both had sex with Assange. The photographer was worried about having had unprotected sex and decided she wanted to go to the police.

The other woman accompanied her to the police station on Aug. 20 just to support her but then told the investigating officer on duty that she, too, had had sex with Assange, Aftonbladet reported.

Based on what was said to police, the on-call prosecutor, Marie Kjellstrand, decided to issue an arrest warrant on charges of rape and molestation, and the next day the story hit the Swedish paper Expressen and newspapers all over the world.

Kjellstrand's decision was overruled the following day by a higher-level prosecutor, Eva Finne, who withdrew the arrest warrant and said she did not see any evidence for rape allegations.

Then, on Sept. 1, a third prosecutor, Ny, re-opened the rape investigation, implying that she had new information in the case.

On Nov. 18, Swedish judicial officials approved a prosecutorial request that Assange be detained for questioning for alleged sex crimes, and on Nov. 30 Interpol issued a "red notice" against Assange for alleged sex crimes in Sweden. Despite what has happened, the woman who organized the event and had Assange stay at her apartment told Aftonbladet that she never intended that Assange be charged with rape.

"It is quite wrong that we were afraid of him. He is not violent, and I do not feel threatened by him," she told the newspaper in an interview that did not identify her by name. "The responsibility for what happened to me and the other girl lies with a man who had attitude problems with women."

When the second accuser was reached on her mobile phone today by AOL News, she said simply, "I have nothing to say on the matter."

Stephens, Assange's lawyer, said that even though British police know Assange's whereabouts -- reportedly in southeastern England -- they have not yet arrested him because of the inadequacy of the arrest warrants issued by Sweden.

"The Swedes couldn't even produce another warrant today that was valid," Stephens told AOL News. "The police here sent it back."

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Postby Wing-Zero » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:24 pm

Awwh, you're such a sweetheart. :D
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Postby Ninor » Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:41 pm

So G2, have you read this article yet? Care to comment on the facts it contains?
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Postby greeney2 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:33 pm

From the top to the bottom the entire artical is damage control from Assange's attorney starting with:

Assange's London attorney, Mark Stephens told


Its nothing more than an attorneys game of playing reasonable doubt, planting the seeds for his defence. Boloney is more like it.

and you tell me I should write fiction! :roll:

Nice attempt to spin the focus off the three of you, looking stupid with your idea ranting none of this ever happened. You are just like a pathalogical liar, who gets caught in one lie, and just goes right into another lie without skipping a beat.
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Postby Ninor » Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:50 pm

greeney2 wrote:From the top to the bottom the entire artical is damage control from Assange's attorney starting with:

Assange's London attorney, Mark Stephens told



Yes, and if had a clue you'd know that the only parts told by his attorney are the ones that have the quotes around them. The rest are the facts of what actually transpired.

greeney2 wrote:Nice attempt to spin the focus off the three of you, looking stupid with your idea ranting none of this ever happened. You are just like a pathalogical liar, who gets caught in one lie, and just goes right into another lie without skipping a beat.


Show one single place where I've said "none of it ever happened" ... you can't because I've not said it.
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Postby Halfabo » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:21 pm

"We don't even know what 'sex by surprise' even means, and they haven't told us,"


Let me take a guess at it. He knew about it before hand but, she didn't know until it happened, SURPRISE!!!


Hey, wait a minute. Wouldn't that be the same definition as rape?
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Postby frrostedman » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:47 pm

Halfabo wrote:
"We don't even know what 'sex by surprise' even means, and they haven't told us,"


Let me take a guess at it. He knew about it before hand but, she didn't know until it happened, SURPRISE!!!


Hey, wait a minute. Wouldn't that be the same definition as rape?


"Sex by surprise" was described in the news the other day as the male not wearing a condom while the female thinks he is wearing one.

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Postby Ninor » Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:12 am

If you two had read the article in this thread, you'd know that the condom broke while they were having sex.
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Postby Wing-Zero » Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:46 am

Ninor wrote:If you two had read the article in this thread, you'd know that the condom broke while they were having sex.


For one of the girls. Not the other one.

And according to Swedish law, if you're having sex with a woman without a rubber, and she doesn't know you're not wearing a rubber, you get fined.

Regardless, there was no assault, nor a lack of consent, going off the facts that are present currently. Assange didn't hold anyone down, nor did he force them to engage in coitus. I doubt that ridiculous looking albino could pull such a feat off anyways.
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Postby greeney2 » Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:57 am

And if you read the artical Ninor, you would know that he was not using one this time!

accounts given by the women to police and friends as saying Assange "did not comply with her appeals to stop when (the condom) was no longer in use."


No means no! Ignoring those pleas equates to rape, even if the initial contact was concensual.

When you are in another country, that countries laws are what you answer to. If Sweden has differnet laws about these issues, it doesn't matter what the laws are in the UK or Austrailia. Some countries don;t even know what Date Rape even means, and neither to way too many men. When you are in Rome do what the Romans do--MORE IMPORTANTLY DON'T DO! If he got himself into trouble, he should have paid more attention to their laws.


They issued an arrest warrent after questioning the victims and others, and because Assange fled the country and is in hiding. He is a man who acts like a fugitive becasue he is one. The artical is full of accusations and characterizations by Assanges attorneys of his innocence, nobody elses. Since he is a flight risk either he can volunteer to go back to Sweden and be questioned, or spend some time in jail fighting extrodition.

She paid for the ticket since Assange apparently had no cash and doesn't like to use credit cards because they could be traced.


Nobody can deny anymore these are real events occured with 2 actual women, and that this is not a total fabrication and a myth. As I said on day one, this requires an actual victim to come forward and file a complaint.
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