frrostedman wrote:Indoctrination does not work on anyone capable of thinking for themselves.
Like I said, once they're indoctrinated and are brainwashed throughout their childhood, they're no longer capable of thinking for themselves, typically.
frrostedman wrote:That's just a fact. And, people that fit into the "can't think for themselves" category are just as susceptible to any other "indoctrination" as they would be the Christian variety so really, the claim is baseless.
So, Christian indoctrination is just as bad as any other form of indoctrination. Thanks for your admission.
frrostedman wrote:As an aside, you know, the group that followed Manson around and murdered all those people in California... they fit into the category. And given either option, call me a overzealous, but, I'm thinking I would rather they have fallen "victim" to Christian indoctrination than Manson indoctrination. But that's just me.
How about NO indoctrination. Let children find their own path, with the usual parental guidelines of course.
frrostedman wrote:I mean, is it really that horrible for a susceptible person, incapable of forming their own beliefs, to turn out to believe and follow the teachings of Jesus, given all the other alternatives? Sure, maybe Atheism or Agnosticism is "superior" in your eyes. But if so. Why? Is Christian doctrine such a horrible thing? Is it completely wrong and immoral? Why?
Because it's wrong and immoral to fill people's heads with false beliefs, that's why. It also stagnates human progress/philosophy. And as long as Judeo-Christianity and Islam exists, these religious wars will never end. Granted, humans usually find other things to go to war over, but who knows, maybe we can find peace one of these days. But as long as the two major conflicting religions exist, there can never
be peace. These religions must be eradicated from our society, however long it takes.
I don't believe what I believe because it's what I desire to believe. I believe what I believe because it's what logic and reason cause me to believe. All I want is to live with the truth -- nothing more, nothing less.