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Re: prayer ...

Postby at1with0 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:31 pm

Smoke signals, eH?

:P
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Re: prayer ...

Postby ricardo » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:58 pm

at1with0 wrote:Smoke signals, eH?

:P


let him be w/ out putting him in a categorical box if no harm. ?

there is the potential for great harm.

smoke signals for some I believe is over rated, if it doesn't 'produce results'

can you qualify that at1w/0 ? tip -you don't have to be an Christian or

nonbeliever , (atheist) to answer. open question.
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Re: prayer ...

Postby at1with0 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:04 pm

A doctor marginalizing a client's experience with prayer by calling it magical thinking and psychosis is quite a shame when it happens. And it does. Everyone has the capability to do great harm, regardless of whether or not they pray.
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Re: prayer ...

Postby Island_Girl » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:11 pm

Some people may enjoy or feel self righteous by sitting in church
or on their knees in prayer. If that works for them then it is good.
We are all in different stages of developement. Then again there may be
people like myself that get "ants in their pants" sitting in church or prayer
groups. When someone asks me to prayer for them, I will. My mind likes to
create, I get bored with reciting the same words over and over so I engage my mind
with my own version of positive vibration in the direction of the group or person
in need of prayer. I get a hunk of clay and form something interesting. Sometimes
a poem or a musical creation in behalf of the one in need or a dance , etc. So this
is what can work for people that want the best for humanity but feel uncomfortable
having to follow the "rules" of religion or social organizaions. I'm not meaning to
be argumentative, just posting my thoughts. :)
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Re: prayer ...

Postby frrostedman » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:26 pm

at1with0 wrote:This might be too personal but what were you thanking God for?
Ignore this if it is.

I was facing a crisis. I had transferred back to Georgia from Indiana and thought life was great. My wife decided she hated the "hustle and bustle" of metro Atlanta so she wanted to go back. I was making good money and didn't want to leave my job. I was going to have to quit, move back to Indiana, and go through the nightmare of starting a new career and all that.

I prayed simply for the 'best possible result' which I thought was going to be to get my old job back at Southwestern Bell in Indiana. Instead, my boss came into my office and asked me to stay on with the company and work from home in Indiana.

Talk about best case... I hadn't even considered that possibility.

And I thanked God a bunch for it. In fact, it was like a pay raise because of the savings in fuel.
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Re: prayer ...

Postby ricardo » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:36 pm

frrostedman wrote:
at1with0 wrote:This might be too personal but what were you thanking God for?Ignore this if it is.
I was facing a crisis. I had transferred back to Georgia from Indiana and thought life was great. My wife decided she hated the "hustle and bustle" of metro Atlanta so she wanted to go back. I was making good money and didn't want to leave my job, and then I faced having to quit, move back to Indiana, go through the nightmare of starting a new career and all that.I prayed simply for the 'best possible result' which I thought was going to be to get my old job back at Southwestern Bell in Indiana. Instead, my boss came into my office and asked me to stay on with the company and work from home in Indiana.
Talk about best case... I hadn't even considered that possibility.
And I thanked God a bunch for it. In fact, it was like a pay raise because of the savings in fuel.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------sorry frost I may have got lost in the shuffle. something about an message ?
maybe someone else. I got the impression you were in Texas. aprox 4/6 hours
from the Mexican border. work from home awesome!
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Re: prayer ...

Postby frrostedman » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:46 pm

ricardo wrote:
frrostedman wrote:
at1with0 wrote:This might be too personal but what were you thanking God for?
Ignore this if it is.

I was facing a crisis. I had transferred back to Georgia from Indiana and thought life was great. My wife decided she hated the "hustle and bustle" of metro Atlanta so she wanted to go back. I was making good money and didn't want to leave my job, and then I faced having to quit, move back to Indiana, go through the nightmare of starting a new career and all that.

I prayed simply for the 'best possible result' which I thought was going to be to get my old job back at Southwestern Bell in Indiana. Instead, my boss came into my office and asked me to stay on with the company and work from home in Indiana.

Talk about best case... I hadn't even considered that possibility.

And I thanked God a bunch for it. In fact, it was like a pay raise because of the savings in fuel.

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sorry frost I may have got lost in the shuffle. something about an message ?
maybe someone else. I got the impression you were in Texas. aprox 4/6 hours
from the Mexican border. ( I'm a retard. ) work from home awesome!


Nope. Youv'e got it right.

I am originally from Georgia.

I moved to Indiana to marry a woman I met that lives there. I quit my job to do that. Then after a couple years in Indiana, my Georgia employer asked me to transfer back to Georgia (I called them because my wife said she'd like to move to Georgia). That didn't work out, because after just 3 months, she wanted to move back to Indiana (pathetic). So I went back to Indiana and worked from home until about 4 and a half years ago when she and I divorced and I transferred here to Texas. I love Texas. And I love my current and final lovely wife, whom I met here.
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Re: prayer ...

Postby ricardo » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:48 pm

at1with0 wrote:A doctor marginalizing a client's experience with prayer by calling it magical thinking and psychosis is quite a shame when it happens. And it does. Everyone has the capability to do great harm, regardless of whether or not they pray.




da--straight! you guys already kicked the can down the road on faith alone,
works. ? concerning Event horizon posit/ comment, one god.
how can your comments about evolution , stasis or retro decline of our
genetic code. offer an additional view of our development. you would almost have to separate an ; ' fossil record ' and 'spiritual evolution '.- separate the two.
evolution - intervention creationism discussion. (I use genetic)
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Re: prayer ...

Postby ricardo » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:50 pm

frost- fortunate and blessed . :D
:dance:

hence your mention of Indy jack . remember I don't believe in coincidence.

I think you and several others have priviledged information. i surmised that early.

too funny.
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Re: prayer ...

Postby frrostedman » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:52 pm

word, ricardo.

All this bunk about a Creator creating this universe being too complicated is laughable. The inarguable fact is.... the simplest explanation for the existence of the universe and all things in it, is that it was CREATED by an outside force. All other theories complicate the issue unnecessarily.
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