Sounds like an interresting book OT, but my first question would be if it were as simple as the book claims, why wouldn't the greatest scientists in Italy be able to firgure that one out?
Good question Greeny2. My answer would be politics.
I am about a third of the way through this book. According to the authors it took alot of time and effort to get approval for samples in the Carbon 14 tests.
To me that indicated politics.
This is also why I say many times that politics is a very devout religion with very zealous adherents or if you prefer members willing to protect the flock. A very powerful and zealous priesthood as well.
And another thing Greeny, You stated..scientists in Italy. Italy has long been known for intrigues and conspiracies going back to the Romans and up to today ...Propaganda 2 or P2 and the Vatican Bank...Roberto Calvi...et al.
Even the short reign of Pople John Paul the 1st of about 30 days or so...mired in intrigue and conspiracy to suppress.
The Vatican Bank scandal still occasionally crops up in the news..albeit in suppressed form...known only to those with an attention span going back far enough to remember. Which is very few here in America. I catch it every time..but most Americans would not. Did you see American Idol?? Dancing with the Stars??? That NASCAR Race??? Who is sleeping with who or divorcing who in Hollywood???
From Event Horizon's post..
This degree of power cannot be reproduced by any normal UV source built to date.
Jesus was an alien, lifted up by the anti-gravity beam of a flying saucer.
LOL LOL LOL...now how is that for faith Greeny2???
That is just a version/variation of "Going where every other man has gone before."
You know...speaking of conspiracies Greeny2...
I know of a Baptist Minister who quit the church he was pastoring and formed his own church. He even left his state to do this.
What he got tired of..sick and disgusted of...was the Baptist Association leadership coming to him telling him what he could and could not preach and teach on. They wanted to censor him. They did not want him teaching and preaching the Whole Council of God.
What he was teaching and preaching on was Eastern Religions Including Freemasonry ..to show how and where they deviated from the Word of God from Ancient Times unto Today. How this other religion exists even in academia, in television, in movies..et al..while the Word of God is suppressed.
What he was also teaching was that many of these Eastern Religions were operating in the churches, including the church and religion of politics, without many even being aware of it. In the Baptist churches through church groups like the Royal Ambassadors.
Even through the Boy Scouts and into the Tall Cedars...
These groups are recruiting grounds for certain desired individuals into the Occult orders/religions..right in many of our churches.
But how about those Redskins?? Dancing with the Stars...NASCAR??
What the Baptist Association did not want taught ..was the Whole Council of God...such that the patterns of this world and the god of this world would not be known by most in these congregations. Thus the traditions of men could pass unseen and unknown by most Christians.
This is why you often see me say that many Christians are an ignorant lot...even about Christianity.
It is the same with this Shroud. So that you do not see what is behind it. What is not desired to be seen. To be seen only by those trained in it. To be seen only by a certain spiritual eye...not by the profane and outer world.
You don't have to buy into any of this ..it is just what I think and know.
And I have had several opportunities to have this verified by certain adepts schooled in it.
What you have here in this shroud..is a Catholic lodge passing on its relics and artifacts to both Catholics and non Catholics lodges...to keep them on the string.
There are churches out here who have no interest in Catholic lodge doctrine nor non catholic lodge doctrine and dogma.
You have going on out here a quiet war...been going on for centuries..albeit quietly now..between the catholic dogma and non catholic dogmas...but both of them being quietly played by another church and religion called politics.
The problem both of these churches have is that they are being quietly abandoned by the whorish religion called Politics..for another religion called Islam.
Islam is closer to the religion of politics in its private secretive nature than is Catholicism and non Catholicism. More vicious, more conspiratorial, more secretive, more double dealing. But they are all devout religions....including politics.
And politics, like many zealous religions, does not care who it sleeps with nor whose souls it sells for lucre/power. Including the soul of science.
This preacher of whom I spoke has broken away and joined a handful of small churches doing the same. But they will not organize and form an association. They will remain small independent churches as were the churches in the early days of Christianity. They do not want to become Nicolaitians as is the RCC and others.
They, a small group of churches, will go their own way to teach and preach the Whole Council of God. They will also teach and preach thier peoples..their flock... to know the patterns of things in Heaven and here on this earth. Not just the traditions of men..which we call secular...but both.
This is the nature of conspiracy Greeny2...even among scientists and thinkers.
The history and track record of men ..particularly natural men..is to rig the show for their purposes..the traditions of men.
This shroud is just one of the facets of the traditions of men.