Lord Help me Jesus...I'm on dangerous ground here!!!!!!!
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I must be going crazy because I think orangetom is spot-on!
First time I've ever said that.
On the serious side..I am not against science...daily practical science.
Carbon 14 is fine for items less than some 5000/4500 years olde. I just don't buy into that millions and millions of years stuff.
I do think they are at least in the ball park with the dates given for the carbon 14 readings on this shroud.
What is of note in most articles is the absence of details of those objecting to the carbon 14 dating data and methods...they just say the sample was not pure or untampered or tainted might be more accurate...no details. This rings more of politics than science.
I'm going to make a statement here and you among the readers don't have to buy into this if you choose not to. My point here is that if there is any organization acutely and skillfully into politics of all kinds..it is the RCC.
I also know one other thing...academically ...catholic schools are first rate. In all arenas...language, grammar, math, sciences, et al. When one completes an education from a Catholic school ..academically they are way ahead in the disciplines than can be said for most public schools.
My point here is that you cannot claim ignorance from most catholics..they are very well educated...academically...and particularly catholic leadership.
You cannot claim ignorance from most catholic trained academics...or politicians. You can however...claim politics....which to me at times is more akin to academic nonsense.
I think you readers get my inference here.
ON the other hand...science can also become political. In this case it is just as dubious to me as is the RCC. No difference to me. I only trust science but so far. Science will make for a very poor faith/religion.
If this were so..science would not be afraid of the competition from religion and seek to operate in such an cloistered environment.
I know that organized science ..just like organized religion will go to great lengths to hide, confuse, and conceal it's anomalies.
In such a case or observation I give both science and organized religion a thumbs down.
And I think this is one of the thumbs down with this shroud.
I am not saying that this was not skillfully done for those days. It most certainly was. I also think that in those days only a handful of trained knowledgeable peoples had the skills to do such an thing.
I just don't think it is what it is claimed to be.
Also the image on the shroud does not match what very very few writings give a description of what Jesus the Christ for Remission of Sins...appeared.
For he was hard to look upon. Not what is in the image here in the shroud.
This was my first clue..so many many years ago about the shroud.