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Why would christ have had sexual relations with women and this be uknown?

Two questions here, "Why would christ ha ve had sexual relations with women?", "Why would this be unknown?"

To answer the first question, why not? If he really existed, as told to us, then he was a man with the same hormones and bodily functions as any other man. It would seem totally real to me, if (again) he actually existed.

Now, to answer the second question, because the books that we know as the "bible" came through Constantine and the councel of Nicea. These were some of the same males who created the catholic church. Apparently they don't like the thought of adult men procreating with adult women. Instead they support and hide pedophile priests who rape little boys. So, basically, modern religions and books come from really sick boys. But, if you read the talmud, it's even sicker.

sandra wrote:

bionic wrote:well..what are you trying to say, Sandra?

I am actually extremely humble when it comes to Jesus

Jesus knows that even if you do not realize it

and he was an Essene and they were against pleasures of the flesh and being locked into the material world via sensual experience and vanity..so he might have been celibate

I believe he probably had a wife and kids, though, at some point

I do not believe he was promsicuous, if that is what you are getting at

there is a huge difference between sex/lust and love..yes they can go together..but also..they can be two completely seperate things

both can become addictions

That is laughable. You crack me up.
Extremely humble? You don't even know the first truth about being humble.
I don't need to waste my time with you. Your
knowledge is of little value to life; it does what?
You wreak of someone who has had minimal real life experiences with others, and you
haven't had the slightest taste of what it takes to live with the truth. Jesus knows this
even if you do not.

ouch..not very Christianlike..but..I..understand
we just won;tt alk at eahc other, I think
you are taking things way too personal..and getting way too attckish an doffensive towards me..which I get, but it is imature and innapropriate..especially for one of your intelligence..you ar enot living up to your own Christian values, here
it is what it is

bionic wrote:you ar enot living up to your own Christian values, here

Seems like you have some mistaken impressions of what Christian values are, here. Christian does not equal passive and nice all the time.

The key question in my mind is "it does what" as to what you do with what you know, and it is just as validly asked of myself as anyone.

Why is it un-Christian to ask you what do you do with what you know?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/But_to_bring_a_sword

As to the questions in the thread it would appear that everyone has to be speculating either way, unless they have insider knowledge of course, we are not all blessed with insider knowledge.

Jesus might come back as promiscuous..it was a different time then.
It is well known he was part of the Essene movement.
It is well known what their beleifs were.

I will not bother with this or you all anymore..
I understnd dyour need to stick up for Sandra

You both reveal more about yourselves right now than you do me.
enough

I am done with this
grow up

unless you are just trolling..which makes me again say
grow up

I am donen with this thread..my opinion has been given on the subject

I realize..(from Jesus, fyi) I have more to say on this...

I was a girl child in the seventies..was taught to be a cool female..be like a guy..so, in the age before AIDS..I did just that...I was a promsicuous young femlae..I got pre cervical cancer at the ripe old age of 22..had to be frozen..luckily it never returned (so far)..
One of my best friends right now(same generation)..she is has to get her vagina removed on Dec. 12th..apparently the papiloma virus does not just attack the cervex (vagina cnacer is so on the rise..look it up)
oh and there's ..
herpes, syphilis, gonnarhea, chlamidia, etc..
http://www.cdc.gov/std/

oh..just where a condom, right?..because that's a geniune connection, right?... fing (sorry..making LOVE) through a condom..yummy..NOT
just share the "love"..so lost
I am all for free love..when we figure out a way to make it genuinely..FREE

and all that crap is this is just these days

imagine back then
humble YOURSELF..and get real
(and none of this is about the emotions that get messed with..which I am witnessing , in ya'll, right baout NOW)

You think Jesus was for THAT????

you forced my hand

grow up
get real

(psychic stuff is a completely different thing..and should NOT be abused..connection IS connection..but even those kidns of connections..can create..jealousy..because people are people..respect)

Your defensiveness is very telling here.

yeah..it is..it is showing I don't like being visiously attacked for no good reason.

Nesaie wrote:

Why would christ have had sexual relations with women and this be uknown?

Two questions here, "Why would christ ha ve had sexual relations with women?", "Why would this be unknown?"

To answer the first question, why not? If he really existed, as told to us, then he was a man with the same hormones and bodily functions as any other man. It would seem totally real to me, if (again) he actually existed.

Now, to answer the second question, because the books that we know as the "bible" came through Constantine and the councel of Nicea. These were some of the same males who created the catholic church. Apparently they don't like the thought of adult men procreating with adult women. Instead they support and hide pedophile priests who rape little boys. So, basically, modern religions and books come from really sick boys. But, if you read the talmud, it's even sicker.

I'm impressed. Very much so and that doesn't happen often. But at the moment I will refrain from adding much because there is someone reading this discussion and topic that is undeserving of our words.

hey..
here's a thought..
maybe..Jeus was GAY????

I mena, that could be true, too
most priests are
and let's face it..
the Roman Catholic church started it all

I mena really jsesu could be whatever you want him to be..since now days he's really just a concept

but back then

he was a man (a rebel, peacefulfreedom fighter and an Essene)
who'se life was mixed with ancient myths

and who'se story resembles a gam eof grapevine

so really Jesus..could be whatever YOU want him to be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1xrNaTO1bI

it's when you try to force your idea of what Jesus should be on another..that's when the trouble starts(think of the wars and the Spanish Inquisition) and you totally miss his core message

but I am "unworth"y..pious much? (it's an ego thing..I get it..must feel superior,right?)

whatever..


Ain't the Christmas spirit fun?
I bet the man would be proud.