greeney2 wrote:NDE to me are things like dying on an operating table and coming back, but having some white light vision, or out of body experience. Drowning and being revieved. Something really tramatic like battlefield terror and horror. I can only imagine what the Chile Miners experienced.
Ah so the body must be near death to be NDE. But what about like in Pulp fiction when they were ambushed from the dude hidden in the bathroom who unloaded a clip at them but every single shot missed? THAT is NDE, too, my friend. Then look at the reaction that Jules (Sam Jackson) had. That "divine intervention" made him want to rethink his career, so to speak.
To me, Death is not physical death but any event that causes an awakening or at least an epiphany.
Kind of Crowley-an in that regard. You'd do well to research what Crowley thought Death is and THEN tell me what near death, even remotely, distantly near, death is. Crowley isn't the only one, though. There are signs of viewing death that way in Scripture I'll bet.