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Postby zoltan2 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:36 am

Physical experiments using thermite to cut steel - US propaganda tool National Geographic eat your heart out!

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Postby greeney2 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:13 am

No offence, but this subject has been beaten into the ground for 10 years. Same question, how could anyone have exposed the beams, rigged them, and do it all in the right places, undetected by janitors and security, and not have a thing out of place? Not one worker walked in that day and said WTF happened in here last night? Why do it to the 80th floors, and not the bottom. How did they possibly get them rigged on the exact floors the planes hit, and have it different floors on each building, and even think a pilot can know which floor to hit. It would take months of prepping, an army of people, tons of materials, and a mess you would not believe. All the beams are covered and treated.

The entire idea of preplanted explosives is rididulas, and why Cole just post, "How they did it isn't important". Because the entire premise is preposterous!
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Postby zoltan2 » Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:40 am

greeney2 wrote:No offence, but this subject has been beaten into the ground for 10 years. Same question, how could anyone have exposed the beams, rigged them, and do it all in the right places, undetected by janitors and security, and not have a thing out of place? Not one worker walked in that day and said WTF happened in here last night? Why do it to the 80th floors, and not the bottom. How did they possibly get them rigged on the exact floors the planes hit, and have it different floors on each building, and even think a pilot can know which floor to hit. It would take months of prepping, an army of people, tons of materials, and a mess you would not believe. All the beams are covered and treated.

The entire idea of preplanted explosives is rididulas, and why Cole just post, "How they did it isn't important". Because the entire premise is preposterous!


The creators of this video will one day, be viewed as heroes of the American people.

9/11 Coincidences (9/19) [D]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHJHAp49Lh8




9/11 Security
Courtesy of Marvin Bush
Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served. [Utne]

According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down."

The company lists as government clients "the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S Air force, and the Department of Justice," in projects that "often require state-of-the-art security solutions for classified or high-risk government sites."

Stratesec (Securacom) differs from other security companies which separate the function of consultant from that of service provider. The company defines itself as a "single-source" provider of "end-to-end" security services, including everything from diagnosis of existing systems to hiring subcontractors to installing video and electronic equipment. It also provides armored vehicles and security guards.

The Dulles Internation contract is another matter. Dulles is regarded as "absolutely a sensitive airport," according to security consultant Wayne Black, head of a Florida-based security firm, due to its location, size, and the number of international carriers it serves.

Black has not heard of Stratesec, but responds that for one company to handle security for both airports and airlines is somewhat unusual. It is also delicate for a security firm serving international facilities to be so interlinked with a foreign-owned company: "Somebody knew somebody," he suggested, or the contract would have been more closely scrutinized.

As Black points out, "when you [a company] have a security contract, you know the inner workings of everything." And if another company is linked with the security company, then "What's on your computer is on their computer." [American Reporter]

A heightened WTC security alert was lifted on 9/6/2001...

The World Trade Center was destroyed just days after a heightened security alert was lifted at the landmark 110-story towers, security personnel said yesterday [September 11]. Daria Coard, 37, a guard at Tower One, said the security detail had been working 12-hour shifts for the past two weeks because of numerous phone threats. But on Thursday [September 6], bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed. [NY Newsday]

...there was a power down in WTC 2 the weekend before 9/11...
On the weekend of 9/8, 9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36 hrs from floor 50 up... "Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower." [WingTV]

...Bush's cousin had a fortunate change of venue for a September 11 business conference...
President Bush's cousin should have been in the World Trade Centre when it was attacked. Jim Pierce, managing director of AON Corporations, had arranged a business conference on the 105th floor of the South Tower where its New York offices were based. But his group was too large so they decided to move across the street to the Millennium Hotel. [Annova]

...and it just so happens that Marvin was in New York on 9/11.

Both WTC 6 and WTC 7 were evacuated within minutes of Flight 11 striking WTC 1, but this did not happen in the twin towers. There were no evacuation announcements in WTC 1 following the plane strike, and workers were encouraged to stay in their building...
Dan Baumbach - WTC 1 Survivor:

Dan Baumbach, 24, a software engineer from Merrick, was stunned to find that building officials in One World Trade Center were telling workers not to evacuate even after the first jet struck. "You can try it, but it's at your own risk," he quoted one official as telling a group of 100 people on the 75th floor. Many chose to follow that advice; Baumbach continued his descent from the 80th floor and survived, but only after braving the debris that fell when the neighboring tower collapsed. "The reason we got out was because we didn't listen," he said. [Newsday]
"In the neighboring south tower people were also evacuating, but an announcement over the PA system tells them their building is secure and they can return to their desks..."

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Stanley Praimnath - WTC 2 Survivor:
'If they had continued on and exited the building, all of their lives would have been spared. As it was, that's not the way it happened. "As soon as we reached the concourse level, the security guard stopped us and said, 'Where are you going?' Stanley explained about seeing the fire in Tower One. According to Stanley, the guard said, "Oh, that was just an accident. Two World Trade is secured. Go back to your office."' [Mercola]
"Today it is still a mystery why no-one in the towers reached the roof..."

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The solution to the mystery is simple - the roof doors were locked, as were many stairwell doors.

WTC surveillance tapes feared missing
Imagine my surprise...

Surveillance tapes and maintenance logs are among the missing evidence as investigators try to figure out why the World Trade Center collapsed, federal officials said Monday. ... The lost records probably contain vital information that could help answer questions, Sunder said. Investigators are trying to locate copies of many destroyed documents from the building's owners and city agencies. [FortWayne.com]


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Postby zoltan2 » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:05 am

Could explosives have been planted in the WTCs? (Part One) [D]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piJ2fL9a ... re=related


Unusual Evacuations & Power-Downs before WTC 911 Demolition [

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qUAtbkzjBQ


9/11 WTC Employee Discusses pre 9/11 Power downs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s5w6uZo ... r_embedded

The most dangerous 911 video ever! For more info check out TubeTruthers.tv

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