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Postby zoltan2 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:02 am

Everything you ever wanted to know about the 9/11 conspiracy theory in under 5 minutes.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/911-a-consp ... heory.html
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Postby greeney2 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:49 am

Trash!
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Postby hxxx » Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:28 am

Your opinion is as eloquent as usual, G2. Comments like yours only serve to squash discourse.
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Postby greeney2 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:54 am

One lie alone in it claims the Seal team 6 that killed Bin Laden were murdered in Afganistan. Not one of them who died in that crash, were the ones in the Bin Laden raid, it was others from different Seal team 6 unit. Seal Team 6 is comprised from many individual units, who have different levels within the team. The Bin Laden unit was one of the most elite at the highest level within Seal Team 6.

Yes the video is trash, it is based on distortions, and inferences, the Seal Team is just one of them used in the video from start to finish.

By the way, did you even try to give your senerio to how the explosives were planted on the other thread, or are you just here for snide comments?
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Postby zoltan2 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:12 pm

greeney2 wrote:Trash!


Your opinion state that you call this video trash.
I respect your opinion.
IMO I feel there is a lot or truth in it.
It might be not the whole gospel truth.

But to me there is some truth in it.

The American Government like any other government are far from being pure virgins doing no evil.
All empires did a lot of havoc and destruction for self purposes.

1000 years ago 500 years ago or into our present age the principle is still the same.

Power greed control and destruction
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Postby Wing-Zero » Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:30 pm

zoltan2 wrote:Your opinion state that you call this video trash.
I respect your opinion.
IMO I feel there is a lot or truth in it.
It might be not the whole gospel truth.

But to me there is some truth in it.

The American Government like any other government are far from being pure virgins doing no evil.
All empires did a lot of havoc and destruction for self purposes.

1000 years ago 500 years ago or into our present age the principle is still the same.

Power greed control and destruction


Facts of life.
War is an extension of economics and diplomacy through other means.

Economics and diplomacy are methods of securing resources used by humans.

Securing resources is the one necessary behavior for all living things.

War = Life
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Postby greeney2 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:23 pm

But to me there is some truth in it.


Why is this any different from the Atheist lawsuit where the injuries were a total fabrication, otherwise the mountian in the mole hill, would amount to nothing? This is a pretty major and bold statement to tell people the Seal Team 6 people who died in that crash, are the same ones that killed Bin Laden, and declare they murdered them to shut them up.

Why would anyone believe any part of this trash, when they predicate it on such whoppers of untrue statements. Like anyone with an agenda, they could care less about the truth, as long as they further there cause. If they find 9 out of 10 people who question them, and 1 believes it hook line and sinker, they further the cause. How many people do think they convinced the United States of America, killed 30 Seal Team guys that killed Bin Laden as a coverup? Problem is our society is full of those who just follow the crowd, and just believe any lie, on their way to the anti war ralley. Its anti-american propaganda IMHO, and that part is definatly a lie.
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Postby Cole_Trickle » Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:54 am

Problem is our society is full of those who just follow the crowd, and just believe any lie, on their way to the anti war ralley.


Just follow the crowd, believe any lie, on their way to an anti-war rally.............I think you may have meant " WHILE ON THEIR WAY TO AN ANTI-WAR RALLY "

So what's wrong with those opposed to war Greeney? Are you a better sort that they are?

Talk about following the crown and believing any old lie.................Man I'm damn near speechless...............you were born and bred my friend......................all the evidence is contained within your last few posts. Nuff said!

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Postby zoltan2 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:46 am

greeney2 wrote:
But to me there is some truth in it.



Why is this any different from the Atheist lawsuit where the injuries were a total fabrication, otherwise the mountian in the mole hill, would amount to nothing? This is a pretty major and bold statement to tell people the Seal Team 6 people who died in that crash, are the same ones that killed Bin Laden, and declare they murdered them to shut them up.

Why would anyone believe any part of this trash, when they predicate it on such whoppers of untrue statements. Like anyone with an agenda, they could care less about the truth, as long as they further there cause. If they find 9 out of 10 people who question them, and 1 believes it hook line and sinker, they further the cause. How many people do think they convinced the United States of America, killed 30 Seal Team guys that killed Bin Laden as a coverup? Problem is our society is full of those who just follow the crowd, and just believe any lie, on their way to the anti war ralley. Its anti-american propaganda IMHO, and that part is definatly a lie.


Greeney 2
I find it strange that out of the 38 people killed in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan 36 were from SEAL Team 6, the unit that killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan Naturally the military officials would cover this and say that none of the crash victims participated in that mission.

Article from the web
Fallen soldier's final journey to end in Fort Collins
DENVER - The body of a National Guard pilot was returned to Colorado on Wednesday after he was among 38 people killed in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan.

All but two of the SEALs were from SEAL Team 6, the unit that killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan, although military officials have said that none of the crash victims participated in that mission.

People who worked with Carter said they weren't surprised he was chosen to co-pilot the helicopter carrying the elite SEAL team.

He was "one of the top-trained pilots in Colorado" and could fly Cobra, Huey and CH-47 helicopters, Petty said earlier this month.

"Nobody felt any timidity getting in the back of his aircraft," Petty said.

Carter came to Colorado from the Kansas Army National Guard in May 1988, a year after he earned his bachelor's degree from Fort Hays State University in Hays, Kan.

He had logged more than 4,000 flight hours, including 700 in combat. Carter served in Iraq in 2006 and 2007.

http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20110 ... /108180351

From the web The Daily Mail
By David Gardner and Mark Duell
The Daily Mail
Last updated at 1:57 AM on 2nd September 2011

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -2003.html

August was the deadliest month ever for U.S. forces in the Afghanistan war after 67 troops died - but it was better news further west in Iraq.
However there were big losses in Afghanistan after last month's Chinook helicopter attack, which was the war’s deadliest event for U.S. forces.
Funerals: August was the deadliest month ever for U.S. forces in the Afghanistan war after 67 troops died - many of whom fell in the Chinook helicopter attack.
Many of the 30 Americans who died in the crash last month were Navy SEALs from the unit behind the killing of Al Qaeda's Osama Bin Laden.

The deadliest month before August was July 2010 when 65 American forces serving in Afghanistan died, reported the Los Angeles Times.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1XpoVJ9kY

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -2003.html


Also I beleive that Ossama Ben Laden has been dead for a hell of a long time and because of Dr. Steve Pieczenik

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Wednesday, May 4, 2011

Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.

Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.

Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world.

Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus.

The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik.

Back in April 2002, over nine years ago, Pieczenik told the Alex Jones Show that Bin Laden had already been “dead for months,” and that the government was waiting for the most politically expedient time to roll out his corpse. Pieczenik would be in a position to know, having personally met Bin Laden and worked with him during the proxy war against the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the early 80′s.

Pieczenik said that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001, “Not because special forces had killed him, but because as a physician I had known that the CIA physicians had treated him and it was on the intelligence roster that he had marfan syndrome,” adding that the US government knew Bin Laden was dead before they invaded Afghanistan.

Marfan syndrome is a degenerative genetic disease for which there is no permanent cure. The illness severely shortens the life span of the sufferer.

“He died of marfan syndrome, Bush junior knew about it, the intelligence community knew about it,” said Pieczenik, noting how CIA physicians had visited Bin Laden in July 2001 at the American Hospital in Dubai.

“He was already very sick from marfan syndrome and he was already dying, so nobody had to kill him,” added Pieczenik, stating that Bin Laden died shortly after 9/11 in his Tora Bora cave complex.

“Did the intelligence community or the CIA doctor up this situation, the answer is yes, categorically yes,” said Pieczenik, referring to Sunday’s claim that Bin Laden was killed at his compound in Pakistan, adding, “This whole scenario where you see a bunch of people sitting there looking at a screen and they look as if they’re intense, that’s nonsense,” referring to the images released by the White House which claim to show Biden, Obama and Hillary Clinton watching the operation to kill Bin Laden live on a television screen.

“It’s a total make-up, make believe, we’re in an American theater of the absurd….why are we doing this again….nine years ago this man was already dead….why does the government repeatedly have to lie to the American people,” asked Pieczenik.

“Osama Bin Laden was totally dead, so there’s no way they could have attacked or confronted or killed Osama Bin laden,” said Pieczenik, joking that the only way it could have happened was if

http://www.prisonplanet.com/top-us-gove ... -flag.html


Greeney please check out the following links. We must consider the following top people versions after all they are not conspiracies.

Former Pakistani intelligence chief Hamid Gul went on the Alex Jones Show today and characterized the unverified assassination of Osama bin Laden as symbolic theater.

Gul said the event was a “make believe drama” designed to be used for Obama’s upcoming re-election campaign.

The supposed hit as described by the government and the corporate media is the “stuff of folk lore, for legend-making and the ballad,” Gull explained.

Hamid Gull went on to cite the late Prime Minister of Pakistan, Benazir Bhutto, who told David Frost in late 2007 that Osama bin Laden was murdered by Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, who is also one of the men convicted of kidnapping and killing journalist Daniel Pearl.

The BBC had excised Bhutto’s comment but was forced to reinsert the footage in its version after the unedited version appeared on YouTube.

She was assassinated on December 27, 2007, after a political rally in Rawalpindi, Pakistan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xC7C322 ... r_embedded

- Former CIA officer and hugely respected intelligence & foreign policy expert Robert Baer, who in 2008 when asked about Bin Laden by a radio host responded, “Of course he is dead.”

- On December 26, 2001, Fox News, citing a Pakistan Observer story, reported that the Afghan Taliban had pronounced Bin Laden dead and buried him in an unmarked grave.

- On January 18, 2002, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf announced: “I think now, frankly, he is dead.”

- On July 17, 2002, the then-head of counterterrorism at the FBI, Dale Watson, told a conference of law enforcement officials that “I personally think he [Bin Laden] is probably not with us anymore.”

- In October 2002, Afghan President Hamid Karzai told CNN that “I would come to believe that [Bin Laden] probably is dead.

- In 2003, former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright told Fox News Channel analyst Morton Kondracke she suspected Bush knew the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden and was waiting for the most politically expedient moment to announce his capture.

- In November 2005, Senator Harry Reid revealed that he was told Osama may have died in the Pakistani earthquake of October that year.

- In February 2007, Professor Bruce Lawrence, head of Duke University’s Religious Studies program, stated that the purported video and audio tapes that were being released of Bin Laden were fake and that he was probably dead.

- On November 2, 2007, former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto told Al-Jazeera’s David Frost that Omar Sheikh had killed Osama Bin Laden.

- In March 2009, former US foreign intelligence officer and professor of international relations at Boston University Angelo Codevilla stated: “All the evidence suggests Elvis Presley is more alive today than Osama Bin Laden.”

- In May 2009, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari confirmed that his “counterparts in the American intelligence agencies” hadn’t heard anything from Bin Laden in seven years and confirmed “I don’t think he’s alive.”

In a way, the establishment had their hand forced in having to announce the death of someone whose shadowy existence had proven very useful to them in maintaining fear and uncertainty amongst the population of America and the world.

The fact that the myth behind Al-Qaeda has been completely demolished and that the group, through a myriad of revelations, including Anwar Al-Alawki’s post-9/11 visit to the Pentagon, is now widely known to be a US intelligence front, perhaps now means that Al-Qaeda will be swept under the rug and a new enemy will be invented in order to legitimize the continued US military-complex domination of the globe.

H/T: James Corbett – Osama Bin Laden Pronounced Dead… For the Ninth Tim
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Postby greeney2 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:36 am

What a surprize, predictable responses, new questions, belittle, spelling, nothing changes here. :oops:

Believe whatever you want to believe, nothing I say will change you.
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