Ishmael and a window of opportunity....

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Ishmael and a window of opportunity....

Postby orangetom1999 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:35 pm

I have this idea I have been working on. I have actually been working on it in different forms for some years now..but it just popped in there today while doing some random rabid musings.

It occurred to me that someone or some group has a window of opportunity if you believe in such things as conspiracy, TPTB, and such.

This vote that is being delayed, sensationalized, dramatized on the Budget Deficit and tax increases is very very important to TPTB in order to get this country to follow their template of Ishmael and continually shake this nation down in the manner they are shaking down the UK and the Continent.

Our leaders must bow to their will or be punished..even if it means punishing the American people by more divide and conquer...more polarizing of this nation verses uniting.

Filling the land with violence as the Word identifies them...Ishmaelites.

There may be a window of opportunity to shut down all opposition by default, by guilt, by manipulation of the media, and peoples emotions/guilt conditioning's. To default unto silence all opposition to the next election, all opposing candidates and parties. To put people on a puppet string..the whole nation.

To get both the deficit increase as well as massive tax increases because no one would dare to vote against it as well as guaranteeing the next election.

This has happened before in history. Will we be witnessing it happen again soon???

If so... it is indeed a religion at work..the religion of Ishmael.

Keep this in mind as history unfolds before us.
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Re: Ishmael and a window of opportunity....

Postby bionic » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:38 pm

Hope springs eternal and there are always revolutionaries..always..it's part of the cycle
build it..knock it down..build it..knock it down...
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Re: Ishmael and a window of opportunity....

Postby orangetom1999 » Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:52 am

I think this revolution has already happened years and years ago. This is just a continuation of it by necessity...by expediency.

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Re: Ishmael and a window of opportunity....

Postby bionic » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:46 am

it's the same fight..layered
maybe it's time for a new paradigm
coexist
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Re: Ishmael and a window of opportunity....

Postby qmark » Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:59 pm

This revolution began almost fifty years ago, and it is now picking up momentum so its grand vision can be accomplished within a single generation. Religion is the key. Christianity has been under attack for so long in this country it goes without notice because of its very subtle nature.

There are the obvious attacks, such as prayer in schools, "In God we Trust" debate, removal of nativity scenes etc., but that is not the real threat. The real threat is the changing of Christianity itself from the inside out to where it is almost unrecognizable from the true faith. With a little nudge here, and a little nudge there, Christianity is being transformed into something that is far from true Christianity. As people do not use the discernment the Lord has given them they believe the lie.

Once the TPTB have accomplished the highjacking of the faith they can control the people and the outcome. This is necessary for the "New World Order" because the government needs the backing of traditional religion to support its very own gnostic religion.

Something wicked this way comes. Indeed, it is already here. It is my opinion that in the not too distant future the lines will be more clearly drawn between Isaac and Ishmael, as OT would say, and there will be no fence sitting. The question we will all have to answer is, whose camp are you in?
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Re: Ishmael and a window of opportunity....

Postby bionic » Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:38 pm

I repeat..it's time for a new paradigm
you are being too dualistic
a system best works when the variants within it work for themselves and the whole of the system equivalently
too much anarchy..chaos..too much control stagnation
there is a place in the middle..more a zone
that's where creation lives
any too much oen way..in any direction..is stagnation...and eventually evaporation
it is the balancing of opposingfoces..nto just two..but many..that make existence and life and keept the flow..flowing
do you not see this?
yes..fight the "power"..but for God's sake do not becoem the next "power"
your thinking, your ernegy..makes me fear without realizing it..this is where you will lead because you are too unforgiving, too arrogant and too extreme
without realizing it..you are repeating the same pattern the latest 'evil overlord's have been following..we all statrt out with the best of intentions
see the new boss..same as the old boss
I say this with affection, because I care and wish for you to see what I am gettign at for your own good

look at the examples popping up all around you, governements shutting down because extemists cannot find some middle ground on which to do some geniune work
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Re: Ishmael and a window of opportunity....

Postby qmark » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:17 pm

On the contrary, I am very forgiving, it is not my place to judge, and it is not arrogance but just a firm conviction in the Word of God. The Bible disagrees with your opposing forces view. Jesus Christ is life and life is found in Him, and when "the day of the Lord" comes, it will be His way and His way only. I am just agreeing with that. The new paradigm you speak of is just the broad way to hell.

When it comes to Bible prophecy, certain things must happen. Certain things will happen. I think what OT is talking about is the fulfillment of some of those things.
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Re: Ishmael and a window of opportunity....

Postby qmark » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:20 pm

bionic wrote:look at the examples popping up all around you, governements shutting down because extemists cannot find some middle ground on which to do some geniune work


Don't you wonder WHY this is happening?
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Re: Ishmael and a window of opportunity....

Postby bionic » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:19 pm

I realize why it is happening, but I also realize it can seen as a metaphore to describe the problems with the very powers that are helping it to happen.
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Re: Ishmael and a window of opportunity....

Postby orangetom1999 » Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:39 am

Bionic,

You need to seriously think through what you are saying here.....


it's the same fight..layered
maybe it's time for a new paradigm
coexist


look at the examples popping up all around you, governements shutting down because extemists cannot find some middle ground on which to do some geniune workWhen hunted, become the hunter.


There is something very wrong with what you are saying in light of what is the reality of what is happening out here.


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