greeney2 wrote:When the honey bees are gone we are dead meat basically.
qmark wrote:Could it be that the "Pale Horse" of Revelation 6 has left the gate?
Nesaie wrote:I have my own personal theory about the bees. First, there is a province in China that has killed all their bees and humans hand pollinate plants.
http://apinews.morkland.org/2008/08/han ... n-sichuan/
Second, if the bee die off was caused by cell phones or cell towers, then it should be effecting organic bees too. It isn't.
http://www.celsias.com/article/organic- ... sorder-cc/
This colony collapse seems to only be effecting "conventionally" raised bees. The interesting thing about "conventionally" raised bees is that the bee keepers feed the bees high fructose corn syrup.
Now, I believe this phenomenon has been happening since the early to mid 90's. That appears to be about the same time that gmo corn crops started growing in the US. I may be mistaken on my dates here, if so, please correct me. However, it is my personal theory that the gmo high fructose corn syrup is what is really murdering the bees. Considering 70% or so of the corn grown in the US is GMO, there is a high likelyhood that that hfcs is GMO.
A couple of articles about the harm from monsanto and GMOs.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/1 ... 20365.html
http://www.activistpost.com/2011/06/rep ... antos.html
And let's not forget the fact that Monsanto is a chemical corporation that created agent orange and owns pfizer which bought up the rights to aspartame and owns saccharine too.
Oh, to get this back to the religion thingy, God created the bees, plants, flowers, dirt, rain, etc. When evil corporations start messing with that beautiful balance...And, we allow them to play "god"...then there is something very very wrong. Monsanto has to be stopped. I do my part in the only way I know how. I don't buy conventional corn, I don't buy processed foods, I shop at the farmers market and a local food coop. I also go into conventional "grocery" stores and ask if their corn is GMO. Safeway was honest. The produce guy in QFC didn't know and suggested I call corporate, so I did. The "customer service rep" was a dumb as a box of rocks and the bigwigs refused to give me a "definitive" answer. I will NEVER shop there again.
Then, for those who may be into Sichen, maybe this gmo...playing god...is what caused the flood and such in the first place? Or something to the effect that you're not supposed to be messing with the dna of animals, plants and humans. My god, they're creating cows that make "human" breast milk. What is wrong with this picture? Is this not evil?
frrostedman wrote:I hear you all the way. Good stuff. Do you think the gmo/monsanto effect theory is not something so-called experts have considered? If there is a real common denominator between all the collapsed colonies and corn syrup, then these experts or whatever are fools not to look into it.
Here’s what typically happens to US farmers who fall under suspicion of planting saved seed. Private investigators from the Pinkerton agency hired by Monsanto arrive on the farm without warning, sometimes accompanied by local police. They then proceed to take samples and photographs over the course of a few hours to a few weeks, without the farmer being present.
One Mississippi farmer who runs a farm shop from his farmhouse was subjected to constant surveillance by Monsanto investigators who watched the family coming and going, warned off customers, and even rented an empty lot across the street from where to position their cameras.
Monsanto used entrapment to file a lawsuit against another farmer, when one of their investigators begged seeds from him to help solve an erosion problem too late in the season to plant crops. If personal intimidation fails, Monsanto resorts to another violation of privacy by sending a registered letter threatening to "tie the farmer up in court for years" if he refuses to settle out of court for patent infringement. One farmer who challenged this intimidation had his name blacklisted on thousands of seed dealers’ lists. He concedes, "It is easier to give into them than it is to fight them."
A further example is seed dealers who sell seeds in plain brown bags so farmers sow them unknowingly. This happened to Farmer Thomason who was harassed into court by Monsanto and sued for over a million dollars. He had no choice but to file for bankruptcy despite never intending to plant Bt cotton.
In 1999, The Washington Post reported that the number of farmers under investigation in US and Canada was 525. A later report confirmed that Monsanto was investigating 500 farmers in 2004 "as they do every year." Once a farmer agrees to settle out of court he may be forced to present all documents relating to farm activity within 24 hours of request, purchase a specific quantity of company product and disclose the names of other people that have saved company seed.
Nesaie wrote:frrostedman wrote:I hear you all the way. Good stuff. Do you think the gmo/monsanto effect theory is not something so-called experts have considered? If there is a real common denominator between all the collapsed colonies and corn syrup, then these experts or whatever are fools not to look into it.
That is a very logical question. Why would an "expert" not look into the cause of bee collapse due to Monsanto? Maybe because Monsanto is a government sanctioned mafia. Any "expert" who came out with facts and evidence that Monsanto is the cause of the bee die-off could lose their "expert" status, their jobs and possibly worse. To understand this, you have to understand how Monsanto operates. They intentionally intimidate small family farmers. After all, they can afford years of court cases. Small farmers can't.
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