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Sadly Greeney, with all the progressive indoctronation of our youth, this is our future generation.


It's in every school now, they have all been brainwashed to think like this. All by design. They have done their jobs well , while the parents went to sleep and allowed it.






BloodStone...

I actually do not think so Bloodstone. First, Aquarian is no different from those of my generation who thought the "Establishment" was the enemy. They had the same kind of drop out, not being part of anything that attitude. They protested and dodged the draft, (something Aquarian can't relate to) thought no rules were the greatest thing since chopped liver, advocated legalizing drugs and a culture of "free love". Like Aquarian, they spit on returning Viet Nam Vets, just enjoyed life not caring whatsoever, someone else got shot while they stayed home stoned.


Guess what happened? That generation still grew up to support Conservative values, elected several 2 term republicans anyway, supported wars even after the Viet Nam Era was long gone. And just last month, the progressive movement, got a movement unprecedented since WW2, where the predominatly liberal Congress, got voted down the road. The swing is going back to conservative, and the liberal far left (and Aquarian in someplace beyond the far left) is now being rejected. The liberal values were not a landslide 2 yrs ago either, and look how many people flock to see Sarah Palin, proving not everyone thinks like Aquarian.

You will always have those who sit on the sidelines and do nothing but Booooo, in a crowd. The thrive finding problems, never come up with solutions, and really hope for failures. This is the mind set of you Aquarian, not having the common sence to know what military things should not be blurted all over the internet, in order to save the lives of someone who has the conviction and courage you will never understand. YOu will always be on the sidelines, letting someone else do it, never lifting a finger. You have no idea the luxury you enjoy at your age, NOT HAVING AN ACTIVE MILITARY DRAFT. You get to enjoy the Miami sun, never have to worry about it, and could care less if you high school buddys who enlisted, get killed over scumbags like Assange.

Damn, a three paragraph analysis of yours truly. Should I be honored? I love it when a conversations turns into a tirade of personal attacks and misguided nostalgia.

First, Aquarian is no different from those of my generation who thought the "Establishment" was the enemy. They had the same kind of drop out, not being part of anything that attitude. They protested and dodged the draft, (something Aquarian can't relate to) thought no rules were the greatest thing since chopped liver, advocated legalizing drugs and a culture of "free love". Like Aquarian, they spit on returning Viet Nam Vets, just enjoyed life not caring whatsoever, someone else got shot while they stayed home stoned.

Well, the Establishment remains the enemy to the working-class, who is the majority of the world. They want to imprison us once martial law is declared because if you question the banks, if you question the government, if you question Janet Napolitano's Nazi tactics, one is deemed an immediate suspect. There's alot to be worried about the Establishment. However, I'm not a drop out. Far from it, actually. I remain a full-time student dedicated to excelling in his academics. But you're right; I cannot fight for this country. This country is a beacon of imperialism, tyranny and genocide. You cite Vietnam and even now, that war was considered lost from the very start, unnecessary and the Gulf of Tonkin incident now revealed to be a lie...just like the majority of U.S. Foreign Policy. You have to stop lumping the whole "patriotic service" of volunteers with the mission of U.S. political elites.

First, Aquarian is no different from those of my generation who thought the "Establishment" was the enemy. They had the same kind of drop out, not being part of anything that attitude. They protested and dodged the draft, (something Aquarian can't relate to) thought no rules were the greatest thing since chopped liver, advocated legalizing drugs and a culture of "free love". Like Aquarian, they spit on returning Viet Nam Vets, just enjoyed life not caring whatsoever, someone else got shot while they stayed home stoned.

They are also the same people who just got done cramming down every bad legislation they could down our throats. They are Pelosi, Reid, Obama, (Aquarian fits into this very same bunch), that's what they are teaching our youth, every attempt they get closer , and closer . Why ? because they are ingrained in every school, every church, every Union. They have time on their side. Thank God this election the American people woke up enough to slow them down, but we are far behind their attempts. They will continue to teach our founding fathers were evil, and the revolutionist murderers were heros. They will continue to rewrite history , and delete all the real history of this country.
We can not stop, we must rid our country of these cancers before it's too late.

Here's an example of their way of thinking.....

http://www.breitbart.tv/liberal-star-bl ... years-old/



BloodStone...

Well, the Establishment remains the enemy to the working-class, who is the majority of the world.

Typical statement from a 22 year old who has not even started his working life. When you are my age you have a different perspetive, assuming your lifestyle gets you that far.

That estabishment enemy for most of the working class people turns into career opportunities that provides you security, income, and benifits raising a family. Even you have sunk to the same lows having taken a job yourself with one of them. As long as that paycheck keeps coming in on Fridays, your standards get a little different, as well as your priorieties. Instead of praying those corporate giants sink into oblivian when your are 22, you now want them to suceed and grow, becasue you have a vested interest in their sucess. Like it not, most everyone works for someone, and working for these establishment enemies, and wanting them to be sucessfull is not a bad thing.

Someday, God Willing, you get to my age, you will retire. The Ememy all of a sudden isn't so evil as you thought it was when you were 22.

This country is a beacon of imperialism, tyranny and genocide.

This contry is the beacon of freedom that allows you to be the full time student you are.

I also know darn well what the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution was and know the difference between that and what happened on 911.

You cite Vietnam and even now, that war was considered lost from the very start, unnecessary and the Gulf of Tonkin incident now revealed to be a lie

South Vietnam was an ally that was being overthrown. The US stepped in.

They did so with a bit of deceit, yes. BUT similar strategies were employed for getting public support for both world wars as well. The war itself, I don't think, is what you have quarrel with.

you know it's funny i don't believe alot of what I'm told by the government anymore, however I also think that it is the duty of every american to defend his country and way of life, I would not be opposed to a system where everyone must serve in the military for one tour of duty.

When you get out of the states and see whole countries being run by armed 13 y/o's working for druglords (Sudan, Somalia) or even entire countries with almost no children (Afghanistan); you start to realize the states are doing you a favor...you wouldn't last ten minutes in one of those countries. The world is a sh#t hole and the states are protecting you from it.

the map probably shows security contractors in the areas...which are still not recognized combatants and therefore 'civilians'. just a little spin by the state department.

Being recognized as a civilian or as a combatant are two different things. The insurgents are combatants, but they are civilians since they do not belong to the Afghan military. Contractors are likewise civilians but they are also combatants.

Alright, I am being attacked from all sides here so I'll take the time to respond thoroughly and to the best of my writing ability.

Bloodstone wrote:

They are also the same people who just got done cramming down every bad legislation they could down our throats. They are Pelosi, Reid, Obama, (Aquarian fits into this very same bunch), that's what they are teaching our youth, every attempt they get closer , and closer . Why ? because they are ingrained in every school, every church, every Union. They have time on their side. Thank God this election the American people woke up enough to slow them down, but we are far behind their attempts. They will continue to teach our founding fathers were evil, and the revolutionist murderers were heros. They will continue to rewrite history , and delete all the real history of this country.
We can not stop, we must rid our country of these cancers before it's too late.

I don't fully understand nor grasp where all this vitriol is coming from, but this is by far one of the most inaccurate posts in Blackvault History. I do not support the agenda of the Democratic Party. In-fact, time and time again has proven that both parties, Democratic and Republican, serve the same corporate interests, are beholden to the agenda of U.S. imperialism, and wage endless class warfare against the planet. Once you look past the false left/right paradigm you will see that no one in Washington D.C. is your friend.


Greeney wrote:

Typical statement from a 22 year old who has not even started his working life. When you are my age you have a different perspetive, assuming your lifestyle gets you that far.

That's an extremely harsh statement. I would have never expected that from you, really.

That estabishment enemy for most of the working class people turns into career opportunities that provides you security, income, and benifits raising a family. Even you have sunk to the same lows having taken a job yourself with one of them. As long as that paycheck keeps coming in on Fridays, your standards get a little different, as well as your priorieties. Instead of praying those corporate giants sink into oblivian when your are 22, you now want them to suceed and grow, becasue you have a vested interest in their sucess. Like it not, most everyone works for someone, and working for these establishment enemies, and wanting them to be sucessfull is not a bad thing.

Unfortunately Greeney, I may be young, but I am also old enough to see and talk to people around me who are struggling. The very same income, benefits, etc. that we depend on by our corporate parents are at the behest of the owners/capitalists. If they want to one day to slash benefits and wages for the sake of "staying afloat", they will do so out of risk of harming your family's security. There's a whole lot of reasons for this, but mostly it is 1) the gross concentration of wealth in the hands of a few, and 2) currency-dependent economy. Wanting for them to be successful is not a bad thing, but unfortunately, the workers wage disparity is 500x less than that of an owner/CEO. There is somethng seriously wrong when a system is built upon that subterfuge, ; a system where workers produce everything but own less than the non-producers.

This contry is the beacon of freedom that allows you to be the full time student you are.

I also know darn well what the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution was and know the difference between that and what happened on 911.

9/11 was an open-door invitation to many things this country has done to turn the world against it. If we are to believe the official story of 9/11, which is still being questioned by academics, then we have to analyze it from a realistic perspective. Why would they attack us? Is it because they "hate our freedoms?". Or is it because we have bombed, maimed, and occupied their lands for many decades?

And I'm 23

Tairaa wrote:

South Vietnam was an ally that was being overthrown. The US stepped in.

Out of the kindness of their hearts I'm sure

BUT similar strategies were employed for getting public support for both world wars as well. The war itself, I don't think, is what you have quarrel with.

The strategy during the Cold War was pretty clear. Convince the American public that Communism will bring them into a fold of despostism and tyranny. Hell, what more evidence did they need with Stalin there wreaking havoc in the Soviet Union? Take one truth. Exploit it. Multiply the truth by 678,943= foreign policy based on a crusade of lies.

chrisv25 wrote:

you know it's funny i don't believe alot of what I'm told by the government anymore, however I also think that it is the duty of every american to defend his country and way of life, I would not be opposed to a system where everyone must serve in the military for one tour of duty.

That is akin to slavery. No one should have to work for the military-industrial complex if they don't want to.

The world is a sh#t hole and the states are protecting you from it.

They are the ones that create the conditions ripe for what you described in the latter!

I'm still trying to figure out what "Dire Security" is.