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Postby frrostedman » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:51 am

Ah yes. Just imagine if anyone went around mocking Islam in this way. Like Sister Frost said in the article, if someone put up anti-Muslim posters like that, people would later be found hanging from the lamp posts.


'Christmas is evil': Muslim group launches poster campaign against festive period
By Daily Mail Reporter
22nd December 2010

Fanatics from a banned Islamic hate group have launched a nationwide poster campaign denouncing Christmas as evil.

Organisers plan to put up thousands of placards around the UK claiming the season of goodwill is responsible for rape, teenage pregnancies, abortion, promiscuity, crime and paedophilia.

They hope the campaign will help 'destroy Christmas' in this country and lead to Britons converting to Islam instead.

Labour MP and anti racist campaigner Jim Fitzpatrick branded the posters 'extremely offensive' and demanded they were immediately ripped down.

The placards, which have already appeared in parts of London, feature an apparently festive scene with an image of the Star of Bethlehem over a Christmas tree.

But under a banner announcing 'the evils of Christmas' it features a message mocking the song the 12 Days of Christmas.

It reads: 'On the first day of Christmas my true love gave to me an STD (sexually transmitted disease).

'On the second day debt, on the third rape, the fourth teenage pregnancies and then there was abortion.'

According to the posters, Christmas is also to responsible for paganism, domestic violence, homelessness, vandalism, alcohol and drugs.

Another offence of Christmas, it proclaims, is 'claiming God has a son'.

The bottom of the poster declares: 'In Islam we are protected from all of these evils. We have marriage, family, honour, dignity, security, rights for man, woman and child.'

The campaign's organiser is 27-year-old Abu Rumaysah, who once called for Sharia Law in Britain at a press conference held by hate preacher leader Anjem Choudary, the leader of militant group Islam4UK.

Former Home Secretary Alan Johnson banned Islam4UK group earlier this year, making it a criminal offence to be a member, after it threatened to protest at Wootton Bassett, the town where Britain honours its war dead.

Mr Rumaysah told the Mail that he was unconcerned about offending Christians.
He said: 'Christmas is a lie and as Muslims it is our duty to attack it.

'But our main attack is on the fruits of Christmas, things like alcohol abuse and promiscuity that increase during Christmas and all the other evils these lead to such as abortion, domestic violence and crime.

'We hope that out campaign will make people realise that Islam is the only way to avoid this and convert.'

Mr Rumaysah, who said his campaign was not linked to any group, boasted that the posters would be put up in cities around the country, including London, Birmingham and Cardiff.
The campaign was highlighted by volunteers from a charity which distributes food and presents to pensioners and the lonely at Christmas.

Sister Christine Frost, founder of the East London Neighbours in Poplar charity, said: 'The more posters I saw, the more angry I got.

'Someone is stirring hatred which leaves the road open to revenge attacks or petrol bombs through letter-boxes.

'I told the Mayor we are all scared.

'If we said such things about Muslims, we'd all be hanging from lamp-posts.
'The posters appear to be professionally printed'.

Poplar and Limehouse MP Mr Fitzpatrick said: 'These posters are extremely offensive and have upset a lot of people - that's why we jumped on it and asked the council to remove them.

'Sister Christine is rooted in the community and doesn't take offence lightly.

'But these hate posters really upset her. Christmas is close to her belief.'

A Met Police spokesman said they had received complaints and were investigating.
Tower Hamlets mayor Lutfur Rahman said the posters had 'upset and antagonised many residents'.

He added: 'The messages on these posters are offensive and do not reflect the views of the Council or the vast majority of residents.'

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Postby Ninor » Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:21 pm

frrostedman wrote:Ah yes. Just imagine if anyone went around mocking Islam in this way. Like Sister Frost said in the article, if someone put up anti-Muslim posters like that, people would later be found hanging from the lamp posts.


'Christmas is evil': Muslim group launches poster campaign against festive period
By Daily Mail Reporter
22nd December 2010

Fanatics from a banned Islamic hate group have launched a nationwide poster campaign denouncing Christmas as evil.



I got this far before I dismissed this thread as having nothing to do with actual Muslims and Islam. The key words being "Fanatics from a banned Islamic hate group". They are not Muslims, they're banned Fanatics. It would be akin to me posting an article about the KKK attacking people, which has it's roots as a Christian organization, but instead of titling it KKK group attacks so and so, I would title it Christian group attacks so and so.

Move along folks, nothing to see here, just another fear mongering post by a "Christian" trying to stir up some hate at Christmas.
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Postby orangetom1999 » Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:35 am

The significance of Jesus the Christ for remission of sins is His death burial and resurrection..for whom He died...not his birth. The only importance of his birth is that He was born of a virgin..born sinless. Other than that it was an ordinary birth process.

What one learns from the Word..both Olde and New Testament is that there is no instruction to the Hebrews nor the Christians to celebrate a birthday.

Birthdays come from Pagan/Heathen custom and traditions.

Both in the Olde Testament and New Testament all glory is to God..not to humans and human traditions/customs. ...all glory ..every day.

Christians of yesteryear..knew this. So many Christians of today do not. And what is worse ..many ministers of the Word fail to teach their flocks this knowledge. In this ..many ministers are in fact making merchandize of their flocks to the customs and traditions of men.

I doubt that the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob would be honored or glorified by the manner in which men have made merchandize of the birth of His son. Not just on this day but any day.

While I dont agree with the Muslims on most things...on this they are not far off the mark.
This is not glory to the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob.
You can begin with Jerimiah Chapter 10 on this.

This is of Ishmael and not Issac. What is of irony here is that both groups ..the Christians and Muslims seem to be ignorant of this concept. To deceive if possible ..even the very elect.

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Postby frrostedman » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:03 am

Ninor wrote:Move along folks, nothing to see here, just another fear mongering post by a "Christian" trying to stir up some hate at Christmas.

How do you know the author of the article is a 'Christian'?

Keep spreading the love and Christmas cheer, ninor. The world is a better place because of people like you.

Merry Christmas!
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Postby frrostedman » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:36 am

orangetom1999 wrote:The significance of Jesus the Christ for remission of sins is His death burial and resurrection..for whom He died...not his birth. The only importance of his birth is that He was born of a virgin..born sinless. Other than that it was an ordinary birth process.

Brother, with all due respect. The significance is, if Christ hadn't been born, He wouldn't have been here.

His birth is totally worth celebrating. As is His resurrection, which some call Easter; I call it "Resurrection Sunday."

What one learns from the Word..both Olde and New Testament is that there is no instruction to the Hebrews nor the Christians to celebrate a birthday.

And brother, if we only do what we are instructed to do, we would be rightfully described as practitioners of legalism.

Birthdays come from Pagan/Heathen custom and traditions.

Not exclusively.

The birth of the Messiah is, again, an event worth celebrating. Yes, His death on the cross for our sins is more worthy, but, still--it's worth celebrating.

Many Christian holidays were put in place--not because we felt obligated to celebrate a certain thing, but instead to offset and give an alternative to the Pagan holidays that were celebrated. In similar fashion, African Americans observe Kwanza during Christmas. Christmas was instituted to give the family of God an altnernative to the Pagan Winter Solstice celebration - and Christ's birth was the chosen event to celebrate at that time.

Both in the Olde Testament and New Testament all glory is to God..not to humans and human traditions/customs. ...all glory ..every day.

And so it is, during CHRIST-mas, we give all the glory to God... to Christ. And, in an effort to emulate God, we give to one another charitably and freely from the heart.



Now, I could have taken you wrong here bro, and forgive me if I did. But it sounded as though you were in opposition to the spirit of this thread because in your view, "Christmas" is not an event worth defending against fanatic Muslim attacks.

I differ with you on that, but I understand and respect your position.



Merry Christmas, brother!!
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Postby Aquarian » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:37 am

Wasn't Jesus born in the Spring?
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Postby frrostedman » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:38 am

Aquarian wrote:Wasn't Jesus born in the Spring?


I believe the scholars have narrowed it down to late March or early April.
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Postby Aquarian » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:44 am

So Easter carries more spiritual significance to Christians than Christmas, I would imagine.
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Postby greeney2 » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:50 am

Please eloborate what either means to you Aquarian.
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Postby frrostedman » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:56 am

Aquarian wrote:So Easter carries more spiritual significance to Christians than Christmas, I would imagine.


In my book, yes indeed. But to Christmas's credit, true charitable and cheerful giving is really something to witness. It's really nice to have a yearly celebration that sets the atmosphere for it. That "Christmas Spirit" as it's appropriately called... it's quite an experience.
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