Cole_Trickle wrote:all elements/vehicles of and for the collapse, were established under the Bush administration, this cannot be denied.
It can and will be denied. This started back in the 60's my friend.
Bush, however, is a progressive and did his part, no doubt.
Actually this started back in the 40s under FDR, who wanted to create a "2nd Bill of Rights" which included gov't healthcare. That got shot down. But it took until the 60's for these socialist progressives to finally implement a real plan and it was activated back then. Obama is just putting the final nails into our coffins, so to speak.