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Postby Tairaa » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:00 am

Or that rats caused the bubonic plague.
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Postby Lashmar » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:53 am

Or that Rath is the cause of global warming (with the amount of hot air he come out with).
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Postby Nesaie » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:40 pm

I saw the same show. It mentioned that in Sichuan there are no more bees due to pesticides. Now, humans have to hand pollinate the trees. Why isn't anyone mentioning the pesticides? Pesticides and fertilizers are made from industrial waste! It kills humans, of course it's going to kill insects and bees.

My grandmother always said, never put something on plants that you're going to eat if it kills bugs. If it kills bugs, then it can't be good for human consumption and will kill you too.

Here is your link about the human pollination: ... in_Sichuan

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Postby rath » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:23 am

Aquatank wrote:Thats like saying mosquitos cause malaria. The mite is just one vector.


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Australia should engineer a special bee

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Australia should engineer a special bee to be resistant to the destructive varroa mite to preserve its honey and pollination industries, a leading entomologist says.

Dr Max Whitten, former head of entomology at CSIRO, says Australia is expected any day to succumb to the varroa mite, which is implicated in the devastating Colony Collapse Disorder that has decimated US hives.

Varroa sucks the "blood" of the bee and makes it more susceptible to disease.

Dr Whitten says we should engineer a bee, which has a gene for resistance to varroa which can be turned on by a chemical used by beekeepers.

"The concept is to take a gene whose product will prevent the mite from completing its life cycle," he said.

Dr Whitten says such a bee would be resistant to varroa so long as it was in hives managed with the chemical, but would be killed off by varroa if it escaped into the wild.

he says inserting a new queen bee with this gene into a hive would create a whole hive of resistant bees in three weeks.

He says this so-called "flexi-bee" would also be a "green bee", perhaps satisfying some conservationists' concerns about the negative impact of feral honey bees on native bees in state forests and national parks.

Resistant genes

Dr Whitten says some bees, even those of the same species as the honey bee, are naturally resistant to varroa.

He says if the gene responsible for this resistance could be identified, it could then be transferred into honey bees, adding this is made more possible by the fact that the whole genome of the honey bee has been sequenced.

"A 'promoter' sequence that turns the gene on and off would also need to be identified and transferred," he said.

"This 'promoter' would need to be able to be activated using a non-toxic, low-cost, easily-available chemical."

Technical challenges

Professor Ben Oldroyd from the University of Sydney, who is working on identifying bee genes responsible for hive-cleaning behaviour, says Dr Whitten's proposal is possible but there are significant technical challenges.

First, he says, it relies on the unlikely situation in which resistance relies on a single gene.

"I strongly suspect there is no single gene that you'll be able to pull in like that," he said.

"It's difficult to control who queen bees mate with, in the absence of costly artificial insemination.

"They normally mate in the air with wild drones, which means any genetic resistance would have to be dominant if its trait was going to be transferred to the hive population."

Professor Oldroyd agrees with Dr Whitten on the usefulness of developing a varroa-resistant bee, saying scientists believe the varroa mite lays eggs on bees in response to a chemical signal from the bees.

"It would be useful to identify this chemical signal and then knock out the gene responsible for it," he said.

Both Professor Oldroyd and Dr Whitten have been involved in Pollination Australia, an organisation that plans to protect pollinators from pests and diseases.
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Postby Wing-Zero » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:30 am

That or it'll turn into an even more aggressive critter.

50-50 shot, I say go for it, you wacky Aussies.
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Postby rath » Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:41 pm

Wing-Zero wrote:That or it'll turn into an even more aggressive critter.

50-50 shot, I say go for it, you wacky Aussies.

It would Make a great Bio-weapon ......

if a country had no bees, their food industries / supplies would be wiped out.

Imagine if there was just one country left in the world that was resistant to the destructive loss of its bees.
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