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Postby AirForceOne » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:44 pm

KORAN,SURA. 3:141 And that Allah may test the believers AND DESTROY THE DISBELIEVERS


SURA, 3:143 You did indeed wish for death(Ash-Shahadah-martydom) before you met it. Now you have seen it openly with your own eyes.

I have lived with Muslims and I have no respect for this Nazi totalitarian rubbish...Islam is a cult of death..its a religion based on lies and delusion..
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Postby greeney2 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:05 am

I guess the question is in many other religions, are there your most fundamentalist factions, that do live within your radical descriptions of them, but are there more moderate factions, that practice a peaceful religion that is different from Christian/Judeo religions? I do not think there are 1 billion out there ready to strap on suicide bombs, any more that thinking every Japanese person is a Kamikaze pilot. The culture of middle eastern countries, and how their religion is the primary part of these countries exclusively, is something none of us would relish, but they are not what we know as free societies. I can not imagine the USA, if the most fundamentalists of Christian religions, ran our country, kept score of your daily praying and going to church, and were able to pass laws, that were oppressive and discriminatory, and punish you for lack of going to church or praying 5 times a day. For instance some of the laws of the middle east regarding rape, or rights of women. The concept of honor killings is something out of centuries ago and unimaginable, but it happens today. You could find hundreds of passages from the Bible, Old Testament, that anyone can distort, but to actually practice in this world today would be ludicrous.

Than you have to ask the question in the USA, where freedom of religion and no oppression is our law, why is it we have so many crimes, murders, rapes, violence, organized gangs (no much better than Muslim terrorists IMHO), happen in a free society? You say you have lived with Muslims, well you also live in a Christian/Judeo society, and it is not so perfect either. Go Figure!
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Postby frrostedman » Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:47 pm

On the surface, it seems hypocritical for us Christians to say that what God commanded in the Old Testament was for that people and that time, and does not apply to today's people and time; while at the same time we suggest that the commands from "Allah" via Mohammed, are still being fulfilled present day.

But there is a distinct difference most people look past. If you look at God's enemies of the Old Testament--especially those He commanded be destroyed in battle--they are civilizations that no longer exist. Contrast that with the Koran, the Suras, where you find commands to kill Jews and Christians... people that are still alive in large numbers today.

So as "radical" as it may seem for violent Muslims to be, who think Christians and Jews should be persecuted if not hunted down, tortured, and killed... at least they can find arguable support in the pages of their book.

The only Muslims that don't take up arms and rise up against Christians and Jews, are "moderates" that don't take the entire Koran seriously. The violent zealots of Islam are actually just Orthodox and hardline in their approach. If anything is radical, it's their book itself.

How can a Muslim say they believe every word of the Koran and intend to carry it out in the name of their god, read the verses that command them to kill Christians and Jews, and not act upon them?
Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man. - Albert Einstein
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