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Postby at1with0 » Mon May 13, 2013 10:10 am

Nephilim breeding program?
God's breeding program?
"The Fallen's" corruption?

How do you know this stuff?
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Postby orangetom1999 » Mon May 13, 2013 10:27 pm

at1with0 wrote:Nephilim breeding program?
God's breeding program?
"The Fallen's" corruption?

How do you know this stuff?




Goodness me at1with0!! You have never heard or read of this pattern and happening..from the Word??

It is to be found in the Word itself.


I should probably qualify this a bit more. I stated in prevoius posts that many ministers did not teach this from either the Olde Testament or the New Testament. They were teaching feel good type doctrine...a sugary sweet doctrine with the Salt taken out of it. Many of them are greatly misleading their flocks.

You can find some of it in secular sources. What some or the nations surrounding Ancient Israel were doing with their gods and worship is to be found in books like Alexander Hislop's "The Two Babylons."

Though it has been many years ago since I read this other secular book about the Rites of Venus and other Roman gods and how they practiced their religions. Quite a shock and awakening when one knows...and is able to compare with other pieces of history..much of it censored today in our nations...particularly in the west. Definitely not something for the kiddies.

Why do you think they want this morning after pill to go to 15 year oldes?? Soon enough this age will be dropping ...more and more and more. They are quietly and privily bringing back the olde fertility religions. A people who can be like rabbits but not know enough to earn a living. Nor know much of anything else.

Most of this can be found in the Olde Testament...some of it in the New Testament.

The Breeding program of God in the Olde Testament can be found in the New Testament ..in the Gospels..particularly in Luke with a lineage beginning with Adam. If you follow out that lineage of Jesus Christ from Adam..somewhere in their you find Abraham...and Issac his son...his only son. Issac is in the lineage or line leading to Jesus Christ. THe other son of Abraham..by the bondwoman/Hagar ...Ishmael is not in this line. No where in God's program do you see an instruction to carry on like rabbits nor identify ones self by their sexuality. For the nations surrounding God's people were already doing this abomination.

This is what I mean when I often speak of the son of the freewoman verses the son of the bondwoman.

The son of the freewoman is Issac. The son of the bondwoman is Ishmael. I am not an Ishmaelite.

As the Word states..."In Issac shall thy seed be called." Not in Ishmael shall thy seed be called..but in Issac.

Once you know for what to look you can see it from OLde to New Testaments.

The method of this world and the god of this world is to sew confusion into the minds of people and keep them on the flesh only. This way they can easily convert people who do not know of Issac and into the line of Ishmael...to make them Ishmaelites.

God's method is to awaken those He has chosen ..to pluck them out/purchase them out of this world for His reasons..and put His Heart into them and teach them the difference in the world an His Way. To get them on the Seed of Issac and away from Ishmael.

In Issac shall thy seed be called.

The Ishmaelites have been very effective in keeping people confused...and on the flesh only.

God's people know both sides ..not only the flesh .but the Spirit as well. And some of them even how to test the spirits.

But as I have also stated...God's people have never been a majority..but a few surrounded by the wildlife of this world.

As it was so with the Hebrews...so to it is with His people today.

Hope this helps you ..

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Postby at1with0 » Tue May 14, 2013 12:22 pm

Seems like breeding programs are a bit of a leap from scripture. I wonder what other people who have read the Bible have to say.
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Postby orangetom1999 » Wed May 15, 2013 4:38 pm

at1with0 wrote:Seems like breeding programs are a bit of a leap from scripture. I wonder what other people who have read the Bible have to say.


You are exactly correct in that it is a leap. Thank you.

For those who know, it is a leap of Faith.

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Postby at1with0 » Wed May 15, 2013 7:59 pm

orangetom1999 wrote:
at1with0 wrote:Seems like breeding programs are a bit of a leap from scripture. I wonder what other people who have read the Bible have to say.


You are exactly correct in that it is a leap. Thank you.

For those who know, it is a leap of Faith.

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Or at least for those who think they know.
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Postby orangetom1999 » Sun May 19, 2013 11:45 pm

at1with0,

Here is the line of God's particular breeding program. From Luke chapter 3 in the King James Version.

Begining at verse 23 of Luke Chapter 3 and going through verse 38.

This is the breeding program of the seed God wanted brought and preserved in this world until the time appointed.
Notice how it goes backwards..from Jesus The Christ back to Adam.

In this line of blood or breeding program ..you will find Abraham and Issac...not Ishmael.


23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

24 Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph,

25 Which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Amos, which was the son of Naum, which was the son of Esli, which was the son of Nagge,

26 Which was the son of Maath, which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Semei, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Juda,

27 Which was the son of Joanna, which was the son of Rhesa, which was the son of Zorobabel, which was the son of Salathiel, which was the son of Neri,

28 Which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Addi, which was the son of Cosam, which was the son of Elmodam, which was the son of Er,

29 Which was the son of Jose, which was the son of Eliezer, which was the son of Jorim, which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi,

30 Which was the son of Simeon, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Jonan, which was the son of Eliakim,

31 Which was the son of Melea, which was the son of Menan, which was the son of Mattatha, which was the son of Nathan, which was the son of David,

32 Which was the son of Jesse, which was the son of Obed, which was the son of Booz, which was the son of Salmon, which was the son of Naasson,

33 Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda,

34 Which was the son of Jacob, which was the son of Isaac, which was the son of Abraham, which was the son of Thara, which was the son of Nachor,

35 Which was the son of Saruch, which was the son of Ragau, which was the son of Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which was the son of Sala,

36 Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech,

37 Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan,

38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.


Once again..hope his helps as it is from the Word Itself.


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Postby orangetom1999 » Sun May 19, 2013 11:49 pm

As to the fallen and the nephilim breeding program...there are two indexes or identifiers that you are dealing with a religion of the fallen and attempts to promote it.

1...rampant runaway sexuality..eventually open and visible sexuality of all kinds..or a attempt to return to this ..usually with the backing of Government

2....Violence...the land is filled with violence.


Usually these two go hand in hand as the decay and breakdown of social order take place.


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Postby at1with0 » Mon May 20, 2013 8:58 am

Doesn't verse 23 reveal that the line was broken with Jesus unless he had children?

How long did these people live?

Rampant sexuality and prolific violence are evidence of a nephilim breeding program, is that right? What is their agenda and who is behind this breeding program? Who oversees it to make sure it is proceeding as planned?
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Postby orangetom1999 » Tue May 21, 2013 9:37 am

at1with0,

Doesn't verse 23 reveal that the line was broken with Jesus unless he had children?

How long did these people live?

Rampant sexuality and prolific violence are evidence of a nephilim breeding program, is that right? What is their agenda and who is behind this breeding program? Who oversees it to make sure it is proceeding as planned?



No the line of Jesus the Christ was not broken with his death on the Cross.

The purpose of this long lineage going back to Adam and leading up to Jesus the Christ for Remission of Sins..is to keep this bloodline untainted from the rest of the world. This is why the peculiar instructions to the Hebrews as to how they were to dress, to prepare their meals, to sow their fields..and again to glean their fields...in prayer and supplication...all of this. This peculiarity's was to preserve these people separate from the way of the rest of the world and thus keep at least a remnant untainted in blood form the corruption and depravity of the rest of the world. This also to show us who read the Word..that we too are a peculear people..and not after the way of this world as it was supposed to be with the Ancient Hebrews.

It was so too with Noah and His generations..the only 8 left for whose generations were perfect at that time. And God preserved them for His purposes.

The Hebrews were to do two things..to preserve God's Word..and out of a particular line among the Hebrews ..was to come the Messiah. In this by God's will they were successful..though they fell in almost every other aspect.

And by 70 AD....withing a generation of the Cross...and the Resurrection.. God had finished with these people and the nation fell with total destruction and 100% loss to this nation. Until that time God had preserved these people against often tremendous odds...even punishing them for disobedience several time and put them in to captivity. But by 70AD...these people had finished what God had intended for them to do..preserve His Word and out of a certain line was to come the Messiah.

Since the Cross...God;s people are a Spiritual people..not by blood line .but by spiritual lineage...as they are awakened by His Will..and for His purposes. As it says in the Word...of every kindred and tongue on the earth. This now goes beyond blood lines...but by the Holy Spirit they are Awakened...Reborn unto His Will and His Way...in His Name.
For you see at1with0...those who know...those of the Spirit..know that they have a family blood line..but also of great importance is the Spiritual line...by His Blood Sacrificed for us...by which we are purchased from out of this world and the god of this world. When I go about my daily tasks out in this world I am often trying to sense who would be of His Spirit. ..and also who is not of His Spirit.
What do you think a Believer finds out here in this world???



As to Jesus the Christ for Remission of Sins...having children....I am aware that this is a very popular theme among the educated. To my limited knowledge on this topic ...it was made popular by two people many years ago.

Robert Eisenman and Barbra Thiering.

Particularly with the advent of the Dead Sea Scrolls. They spent their lives trying to show that the Dead Sea Scrolls and other writings demonstrated that Jesus the Christ for Remission of Sins survived the crucifixion and went on to wed Mary Magdalene and sire children by her.
The problem that these two people ran across was that finally someone carbon dated the Dead Sea Scrolls and the times indicated by the dates were outside the envelope that Barbra Thiering and Robert Eisenman were trying to demonstrate.

Others have taken up this mantle of Jesus having children and moving out of Palestine and into Southern France.
Holy Blood/Holy Grail...is Lincoln, Leigh, and Blaigent's version of this Eastern Philosophy to discredit the Bible Version and appeal to the fancy of many readers. ...to the flesh.

There are others pushing this story line as well. Most of it is speculation with a few facts thrown in to keep the readers on the hook. I have read Holy Blood/Holy Grail many years ago. One of these fellow..Lincoln, Leigh, and Blaigent is a lodge member. I find it unusual that they would be writing on a Society which until their writings was relatively unknown by most of the world.
I am also taught in certain aspects of Occult lore and patterns ...which includes Lodge practices and rituals. Once you know...you can see it carefully inserted into much of this speculation about Jesus having Children and attempting to draw the reader back to the flesh...where Gods people are told not to go. By this I mean away from the Word.


The goal of the Nephilim breeding program is to bring the world back to the way it was ..before the flood...where the Nephilim ruled in feudal mastery of this world and to get rid of most of the humans ..particularly God's people ..as they stand in the way of this plan. To bring this system of Total Depravity back out in the open where they believe it belongs. To breed out or exterminate God's people..and Way and to breed in Satans people and that other way for which God told his people not to do or carry on in this manner.
If you know what it is for which you are looking..you can see the governments of this world becoming willing participants in this program.

In certain programs this is code worded as "The New World Order" ..other systems refer to this as the "Restoration of the True Brotherhood."

Who oversees it to make sure it goes as planned..
Nephilim...Rephaims, Emims, Zumims/Zanzummims
These are of the " Fallen."


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Postby at1with0 » Tue May 21, 2013 9:47 am

Since Jesus was not Joseph's son, Joseph's whole line is irrelevant. What is relevant is the lineage of Mary.
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