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Postby rath » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:31 pm

capricorn wrote:Even if this were true... I'm Not worried, if China ever tried to invade USA they would be faced with armed citizens "behind every blade of grass"....unlike Australia we still have our guns. Australia has no choice but to bend over to the Chinese.

Much like you do for the Brits on a daily basis.


If you say so .... but don't forget Australia control's 60-80 percent of the worlds nuclear material ..... Uranium & Thorium.
Australia long ago ran it's own nuclear program.

& Australia was largely responsible for the setting up & running of the U.S Manhattan project.

( don't you read ) :ugeek: 8-)

Wikipedia wrote:In Britain, Otto Frisch and Rudolf Peierls at the University of Birmingham had made a breakthrough investigating the critical mass of uranium-235 in June 1939.[6] Their calculations indicated that it was within an order of magnitude of 10 kilograms (22 lb), which was small enough to be carried by a bomber of the day.[7] Their March 1940 Frisch–Peierls memorandum initiated the British atomic bomb project and its Maud Committee,[8] which unanimously recommended pursuing the development of an atomic bomb.[7] One of its members, the Australian physicist Mark Oliphant, flew to the United States in late August 1941 and discovered that data provided by the Maud Committee had not reached key American physicists. Oliphant then set out to find out why the committee's findings were apparently being ignored. He met with the Uranium Committee, and visited Berkeley, California, where he spoke persuasively to Ernest O. Lawrence. Lawrence was sufficiently impressed to commence his own research into uranium. He in turn spoke to James B. Conant, Arthur Compton and George Pegram. Oliphant's mission was therefore a success; key American physicists were now aware of the potential power of an atomic bomb.[9][10]s largely responsible for the U.S Manhattan project.


All in all i think Australia will do just fine .... lets not forget ww1 & ww2 ..... if not for Australia none of you would be here.
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Postby rath » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:42 pm

rath wrote:
chiselray wrote:i noticed Gina is importing less chinese workers into Australia ,but the company i work for just had 51 % in shares rip out from under us /bought from us by the chinese .
These guys are gonna do what the japs tried to do since 1941 ,buy us out .



They need Australia more than we need them tho.

& they just cant deal with that. the fact the world depends on Australia .... way more then we depend on them.

The rest of the world is broke .... & already run out of mineral & resources.

Australia is a nation of just 22 million people.


24-01-2013

SOUTH Australia ( about the size of Texas & one of Australia's smallest states. ) is sitting on oil potentially worth more than $20 trillion,( 23 trillion U.S ) independent reports claim.

Cool. there are 20 million Australian's & 20 trillion dollars worth of oil in this one single state .... :thumbup:
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Postby capricorn » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:48 pm

rath wrote:
rath wrote:
chiselray wrote:i noticed Gina is importing less chinese workers into Australia ,but the company i work for just had 51 % in shares rip out from under us /bought from us by the chinese .
These guys are gonna do what the japs tried to do since 1941 ,buy us out .



They need Australia more than we need them tho.

& they just cant deal with that. the fact the world depends on Australia .... way more then we depend on them.

The rest of the world is broke .... & already run out of mineral & resources.

Australia is a nation of just 22 million people.


24-01-2013

SOUTH Australia ( about the size of Texas & one of Australia's smallest states. ) is sitting on oil potentially worth more than $20 trillion,( 23 trillion U.S ) independent reports claim.

Cool. there are 20 million Australian's & 20 trillion dollars worth of oil in this one single state .... that's a 100 million dollars for each Australian. sweet. :thumbup:


That's great rath, its all in the ground. Doesn't do much sitting in the ground though... you do realize you have to spend money to dig it all up... so the cost of all that oil - mining cost (not to mention EPA costs,, regulatory costs) = not that much of an ROI. Plus, it will take you many many many years to dig it all up.
USA has the most gold in the world, sitting in Vaults. Much much more liquidity than your phantom oil buried beneath tons of rock. :lol:
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Postby capricorn » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:51 pm

rath wrote:& Australia was largely reasonable for the setting up & running of the U.S Manhattan project..


:wtf: largely reasonable?
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Postby rath » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:00 pm

capricorn wrote:
rath wrote:& Australia was largely reasonable for the setting up & running of the U.S Manhattan project..


:wtf: largely reasonable?


responsible ...... it's the dam u.s spell checker Microsoft installs in everything.

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Postby greeney2 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:16 pm

For the very reasons you state, Australia being so abundant in natural resources, all the more reason for you to have a strong military, and even stronger internal capability of defending yourself. China just dictated to your country, who you should stand behind, and warned you what could happen.


I have no idea what you military capability is for ICBM's, but I do know the USA can watch you being attacked if it ever happens. We will know before missiles leave the ground. You may talk all the trash you want to, but if China ever invaded you, you will need a lot of help.
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Postby rath » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:27 pm

greeney2 wrote:For the very reasons you state, Australia being so abundant in natural resources, all the more reason for you to have a strong military, and even stronger internal capability of defending yourself. China just dictated to your country, who you should stand behind, and warned you what could happen.


I have no idea what you military capability is for ICBM's, but I do know the USA can watch you being attacked if it ever happens. We will know before missiles leave the ground. You may talk all the trash you want to, but if China ever invaded you, you will need a lot of help.


But thats the thing .... China is nothing, when put in perspective.

There are 2.3 billion Indonesian just 90 minutes north of Darwin.

china is the least of Australia's concerns.

The USA ... Great Britain ..... & greater Europe ... are so far away.

China .... India .... Indonesia. are all so close.

So what makes you think Australia has not done what needs to be done in order to defend it's self.

Australia is living proof .... you don't need a lot of military hardware / modern warfare is a entirely different game.

that's why Australia has wound down it's military hardware since the end of ww2.

It's about capability & balance.

Even Obama acknowledged that in the Presidential debates ( usa needs a modern military ) Australia took that step over 50 years ago.

( some say Australia went to far tho ) & now needs to move back towards military hardware. ( to find balance )
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Postby rath » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:41 pm

capricorn wrote:That's great rath, its all in the ground. Doesn't do much sitting in the ground though... you do realize you have to spend money to dig it all up... so the cost of all that oil - mining cost (not to mention EPA costs,, regulatory costs) = not that much of an ROI. Plus, it will take you many many many years to dig it all up.
USA has the most gold in the world, sitting in Vaults. Much much more liquidity than your phantom oil buried beneath tons of rock. :lol:


Im sure they are already on it ...

it's not like Australia needs the money anyway's.

australia-set-become-the-saudi-arabia-natural-gas-t1789.html

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experts-say-australian-dollar-worth-us1-2014-t7374.html

australian-unions-query-plan-import-3erd-world-workers-t7121.html

australia-signs-new-50bn-gas-deal-with-china-t1780.html

australia-india-sign-billion-gorgon-lng-deal-t1787.html

chevron-signs-70b-gas-deals-t1929.html


newscorp wrote:Australia is widening its lead over Brazil as the world's largest iron ore exporter, with Australia's three largest iron ore miners holding a roughly 79 per cent lead over Brazilian rival Vale, according to The Australian Financial Review.

Rio Tinto, BHP Billiton and Fortescue Metals Group are all expected to post production records for 2013. On Wednesday, BHP reported strong quarterly production reports from the Pilbara with a record 46.3 million tonne result for the three months to December. Fortescue is expected to post record production on Thursday, and last week Rio posted strong production figures.


Australia overtook Brazil as the world's largest iron ore exporter in 2008 when the combined production of Australia's top three iron ore miners was 316 million tonnes. For 2013, the three miners are on track to produce a record 547 million tonnes of iron ore, which would be 79 per cent higher than Vale's output.
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Postby rath » Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:42 am

capricorn wrote:That's great rath, its all in the ground. Doesn't do much sitting in the ground though... you do realize you have to spend money to dig it all up... so the cost of all that oil - mining cost (not to mention EPA costs,, regulatory costs) = not that much of an ROI. Plus, it will take you many many many years to dig it all up.
USA has the most gold in the world, sitting in Vaults. Much much more liquidity than your phantom oil buried beneath tons of rock. :lol:



rath wrote:Im sure they are already on it ...

it's not like Australia needs the money anyway's.

australia-set-become-the-saudi-arabia-natural-gas-t1789.html

bhp-billiton-and-rio-tinto-deal-t1231.html

experts-say-australian-dollar-worth-us1-2014-t7374.html

australian-unions-query-plan-import-3erd-world-workers-t7121.html

australia-signs-new-50bn-gas-deal-with-china-t1780.html

australia-india-sign-billion-gorgon-lng-deal-t1787.html

chevron-signs-70b-gas-deals-t1929.html


newscorp wrote:Australia is widening its lead over Brazil as the world's largest iron ore exporter, with Australia's three largest iron ore miners holding a roughly 79 per cent lead over Brazilian rival Vale, according to The Australian Financial Review.

Rio Tinto, BHP Billiton and Fortescue Metals Group are all expected to post production records for 2013. On Wednesday, BHP reported strong quarterly production reports from the Pilbara with a record 46.3 million tonne result for the three months to December. Fortescue is expected to post record production on Thursday, and last week Rio posted strong production figures.


Australia overtook Brazil as the world's largest iron ore exporter in 2008 when the combined production of Australia's top three iron ore miners was 316 million tonnes. For 2013, the three miners are on track to produce a record 547 million tonnes of iron ore, which would be 79 per cent higher than Vale's output.



‘Oil in five years' from SA shale deposit

oil-five-years-from-australian-shale-deposit-t8500.html
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Postby chiselray » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:34 am

rath wrote:
chiselray wrote:i noticed Gina is importing less chinese workers into Australia ,but the company i work for just had 51 % in shares rip out from under us /bought from us by the chinese .
These guys are gonna do what the japs tried to do since 1941 ,buy us out .



They need Australia more than we need them tho.

& they just cant deal with that. the fact the world depends on Australia .... way more then we depend on them.

The rest of the world is broke .... & already run out of mineral & resources.

Australia is a nation of just 22 million people.

We have enough food, water, minerals & resources to last another 10,000 years, at this pace.

the rest of the world has expelled all their resources already. & they need more now .... we have it ... they need it.

be nice or it's a case of ........... on ya way mate.


Japanese whaling ships hunt in Australian waters & in Australia's greater territorial waters.

I cant help wonder what ever made China think Australia could care less what happens to Japan.

China tells Australia decide China or Japan in up & coming war.


:lol:

Tough choice ...... Um .... China. :thumbup:


Great for our country ,china needs Australia ...we have everything they need i guess i no on can argue differently....Ore ,Offshore gas ,onshore coal methane !
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