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Postby rath » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:32 am

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Kelly

Ned Kelly, Australia's infamous bushranger, has finally been laid to rest in a rural cemetery beside his mother, with his grave unmarked and sealed beneat concrete to guard against souvenir-taking.

Legendary Australian outlaw Ned Kelly will finally be laid to rest beside his mother in line with his final wishes at a plot not far from the site of his last stand, his family said on Wednesday.


A small group of Kelly family descendants escorted the bushranger's remains to the Greta cemetery where he was buried in a deep and reportedly concrete-sealed pit beside his mother, Ellen.

Kelly's last wish when he was hanged at the Old Melbourne Gaol 132 years ago was to be buried in consecrated ground in the family plot at Greta, not far from the town of Glenrowan where he had his final shoot-out with police.

But after his execution his remains were thrown into a pit. It was not until 2011 that DNA testing confirmed the bones – except his skull which remains missing – were his.

"We've brought him home, back to his family and back to the area that he loved, we've given him his final wish, so that makes us quite happy," said Joanne Griffiths, great-granddaughter of Kelly's sister Kate.

"We've made a real effort to ensure that he's going to be safe and he's surrounded by family and friends, which is the way he would've wanted it."


Hundreds of mourners gather for the funeral of Ned Kelly at St. Patrick's Catholic Church in Wangaratta in Victoria (EPA)

Kelly's burial brings an end to a chapter in the story of one of Australia's most famous and enduring legends, with his tale of defiance against land barons and corrupt policemen dividing the nation even today.

Some see him as a callous killer and criminal while others celebrate him as a folk hero and symbol of Irish-Australian rebellion against British colonial authorities. His exploits have been the subject of art, film and literature.

Hundreds gathered to bid farewell to him at a church service Friday ahead of his burial, but Griffiths said the family had also endured decades of judgment for his deeds.

"Regardless of what people might think now ... this is not the day for judgment this is just the day for burying a family member," she said.

Developers of the prison site where his bones were found wanted to keep the famous skeleton for a public memorial or display but the Victoria state government forced them to return it to the family for proper burial.

Kelly was the only one of his gang to survive the shoot-out at Glenrowan due to his iconic homemade suit and helmet of plate metal armour. Three policemen were killed.

"This man Ned Kelly has a certain immortality. Not just in our hearts, but in the hearts of Australia," Monsignor John White told those gathered for Sunday's burial.


The Story of the Kelly Gang (1906) - World's 1st Feature-Length Movie - Charles Tait

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When asked if the had any last words before being hung by his neck at Old Melbourne Jail in Victoria Australia!!

Ned Kelly relpyed
'Such is life', '
'C'est la vie.
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Postby greeney2 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:40 am

Cultural effect
Further information: Ned Kelly in popular culture


A homemade letterbox in the style of Ned Kelly's armour, Bullio, Southern Highlands
One of the gaols in which Kelly was incarcerated has become the Ned Kelly Museum in Glenrowan, Victoria, and many weapons and artifacts used by him and his gang are on exhibit there. After his death, Kelly became part of Australian folklore, and the subject of a large number of books and several films. The Australian term "as game as Ned Kelly" is a common expression.[95]
Films included the first feature film, The Story of the Kelly Gang (Australia, 1906), another with Mick Jagger in the title role (1970), and more recently Ned Kelly (2003) starring Heath Ledger, Orlando Bloom and Geoffrey Rush. A TV mini series of four episodes The Last Outlaw (1980) highlighted the plight of the selector and the social conflicts and battles between selector and squatters. During the 1960s, Ned Kelly graduated from folk lore into the academic arena. His story and the social issues around land selection, squatters, national identity,[96] policing and his court case are studied at universities, seminars and lectures.


And you have the nerve to badmouth the USA for movie propaganda! :oops:

I wonder if anyone thinks, if he was such a murderer and so bad, that he probably was a rapist too?
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Postby chiselray » Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:32 pm

Finally he can rest in peace..

He wore his heart on his sleeve ,held in high esteme of his fellow man .
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Postby greeney2 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:18 pm

What a crock, he he was a murderer.
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Postby greeney2 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:59 am

You think in 100 years they will see the Port Arthur killer as the same kind of hero? Kind of ludicras when you think of it that way.
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Postby rath » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:58 am

greeney2 wrote:What a crock, he he was a murderer.


greeney2 wrote:You think in 100 years they will see the Port Arthur killer as the same kind of hero? Kind of ludicras when you think of it that way.


Two posts in a row ......


Somebody wants some attention. ........ Man hug, cough cough, hand shake ... i meant hand shake. oh look macho' things over there. ...... on my way.
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Postby rath » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:01 am

greeney2 wrote:What a crock, he he was a murderer.



You may be right, that's your opinion. & your entitled to it.

It's not for me to decide how history remembers Ned Kelly. ( or every generic U.S cowboy / Chicago mobster ) for that matter either.

Let history be their judge. & not i.
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Postby greeney2 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:39 am

So you make an excuse for Australian propaganda while you talk about the USA? :oops: Your propaganda is acceptable. :?: They call that hypocritical! :o


Books
The True History of the Kelly Gang by Peter Carey, 2000.[51] This book won the Man Booker Prize in 2001.[52]
Our Sunshine by Robert Drewe, 2001.[53] This novel was used as the basis of Gregor Jordan's movie Ned Kelly.[54]

[change]Music
Ned Kelly the Rock Opera by Reg Livermore and Patrick Flynn.[55]
Ned Kelly by US country singer Johnny Cash, on his album The Man in Black, 1971[56]
Our Sunshine by Paul Kelly, 1999
Game as Ned Kelly by Slim Dusty
Ned Kelly by Ashley Davies, 2001
Ned Kelly by Waylon Jennings, 1970
Poor Ned by Australian band Redgum, 1978
If Ned Kelly was King by Midnight Oil, 1983
Kate Kelly by the Whitlams, 2002
Ballad of Ned Kelly by Trevor Lucas performed by Fotheringay
Shelter for my Soul written and recorded by Powderfinger's Bernard Fanning for the 2003 movie Ned Kelly and played over the movie's closing credits.
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Flower of the Grevillea Ned Kelly
The Story of the Kelly Gang 1906, the world's first feature-length film[57] (70 minutes).
The Kelly Gang, written, produced and directed by Harry Southwell, 1920. Only short pieces of movie and some photos are left of this two hour movie.[58]
When the Kellys Were Out, written, produced and directed by Harry Southwell, 1923.[58]
When the Kellys Rode, written, produced and directed by Harry Southwell, 1934.[58]
The Glenrowan Affair, produced by Rupert Kathner, 1951.[59]
The Stringybark Massacre, by independent movie maker Garry Shead, 1967. This 10 minute movie was to be part of a longer Ned Kelly movie.[60]
Ned Kelly, a movie directed by Tony Richardson and starring Mick Jagger, (1970).[61] The armour used in this movie can be seen at the Braidwood museum.[62]
The Last Outlaw, script by Ian Jones and Bronwyn Binns, a four-part television mini-series, 1980. Starred John Jarrat as Ned Kelly, Sigrid Thornton as Kate Kelly, and Steve Bisley as Joe Byrne.[63]
Reckless Kelly, written, directed and starring Yahoo Serious, 1993.[64]
Ned Kelly directed by Gregor Jordan and starring Heath Ledger, 2003
Ned a low budget satire written, directed and starring Abe Forsythe, 2003.[65]
Besieged: The Ned Kelly Story, starring Peter Fenton, a television documentary, 2003[66][67]
Ned Kelly Uncovered, documentary with Tony Robinson[68]
[change]Theatre
Catching the Kellys, written by Joseph Pickersgill, performed in Melbourne in 1879.[69]:554
The Kelly Gang, by Reg Rede, performed in Victoria in 1896.[69]:558
Hands Up, or Ned Kelly and his gang, written by E. Cole, performed in Sydney in 1907[70]
Such Is Life – a ballet by Edward Borovansky with music by Verdon Williams, performed in Sydney in 1951[71]
The Jerilderie Letter written by Peter Finlay, performed in Melbourne in 2007[72]
Quilting the Armour, the Kelly story through the eyes of its women. First performed at the Old Melbourne Gaol in 2006.[73]
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Grevillea Ned Kelly – a small shrub of the grevillea family, about 2 m (7 ft) tall, green leaves, with orange to red flowers
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Postby rath » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:28 pm

greeney2 wrote:Cultural effect
Further information: Ned Kelly in popular culture


A homemade letterbox in the style of Ned Kelly's armour, Bullio, Southern Highlands
One of the gaols in which Kelly was incarcerated has become the Ned Kelly Museum in Glenrowan, Victoria, and many weapons and artifacts used by him and his gang are on exhibit there. After his death, Kelly became part of Australian folklore, and the subject of a large number of books and several films. The Australian term "as game as Ned Kelly" is a common expression.[95]
Films included the first feature film, The Story of the Kelly Gang (Australia, 1906), another with Mick Jagger in the title role (1970), and more recently Ned Kelly (2003) starring Heath Ledger, Orlando Bloom and Geoffrey Rush. A TV mini series of four episodes The Last Outlaw (1980) highlighted the plight of the selector and the social conflicts and battles between selector and squatters. During the 1960s, Ned Kelly graduated from folk lore into the academic arena. His story and the social issues around land selection, squatters, national identity,[96] policing and his court case are studied at universities, seminars and lectures.


And you have the nerve to badmouth the USA for movie propaganda! :oops:

I wonder if anyone thinks, if he was such a murderer and so bad, that he probably was a rapist too?


Im starting to see what the problem is here ........ You don't know what Propaganda is / means.

Historical fact is not Propaganda ...... For example .... The USA lands on the moon, ( historical fact ) ( :lol: ) right.

The USA won world war 1 & 2 .... & claim s other nations war history as it's own ( Snoopy shoots down the red Barron ) that's Propaganda.

Ned kelly's story is historical fact .... Hows that propaganda.

Australia invents the film industry & Austral makes over 120 feature length films' before Hollywood even creates it's first. ( that's historical fact )

How is it Propaganda. ???
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Postby rath » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:40 pm

greeney2 wrote:So you make an excuse for Australian propaganda while you talk about the USA? :oops: Your propaganda is acceptable. :?: They call that hypocritical! :o


Books
The True History of the Kelly Gang by Peter Carey, 2000.[51] This book won the Man Booker Prize in 2001.[52]
Our Sunshine by Robert Drewe, 2001.[53] This novel was used as the basis of Gregor Jordan's movie Ned Kelly.[54]

[change]Music
Ned Kelly the Rock Opera by Reg Livermore and Patrick Flynn.[55]
Ned Kelly by US country singer Johnny Cash, on his album The Man in Black, 1971[56]
Our Sunshine by Paul Kelly, 1999
Game as Ned Kelly by Slim Dusty
Ned Kelly by Ashley Davies, 2001
Ned Kelly by Waylon Jennings, 1970
Poor Ned by Australian band Redgum, 1978
If Ned Kelly was King by Midnight Oil, 1983
Kate Kelly by the Whitlams, 2002
Ballad of Ned Kelly by Trevor Lucas performed by Fotheringay
Shelter for my Soul written and recorded by Powderfinger's Bernard Fanning for the 2003 movie Ned Kelly and played over the movie's closing credits.
[change]movie and television


Flower of the Grevillea Ned Kelly
The Story of the Kelly Gang 1906, the world's first feature-length film[57] (70 minutes).
The Kelly Gang, written, produced and directed by Harry Southwell, 1920. Only short pieces of movie and some photos are left of this two hour movie.[58]
When the Kellys Were Out, written, produced and directed by Harry Southwell, 1923.[58]
When the Kellys Rode, written, produced and directed by Harry Southwell, 1934.[58]
The Glenrowan Affair, produced by Rupert Kathner, 1951.[59]
The Stringybark Massacre, by independent movie maker Garry Shead, 1967. This 10 minute movie was to be part of a longer Ned Kelly movie.[60]
Ned Kelly, a movie directed by Tony Richardson and starring Mick Jagger, (1970).[61] The armour used in this movie can be seen at the Braidwood museum.[62]
The Last Outlaw, script by Ian Jones and Bronwyn Binns, a four-part television mini-series, 1980. Starred John Jarrat as Ned Kelly, Sigrid Thornton as Kate Kelly, and Steve Bisley as Joe Byrne.[63]
Reckless Kelly, written, directed and starring Yahoo Serious, 1993.[64]
Ned Kelly directed by Gregor Jordan and starring Heath Ledger, 2003
Ned a low budget satire written, directed and starring Abe Forsythe, 2003.[65]
Besieged: The Ned Kelly Story, starring Peter Fenton, a television documentary, 2003[66][67]
Ned Kelly Uncovered, documentary with Tony Robinson[68]
[change]Theatre
Catching the Kellys, written by Joseph Pickersgill, performed in Melbourne in 1879.[69]:554
The Kelly Gang, by Reg Rede, performed in Victoria in 1896.[69]:558
Hands Up, or Ned Kelly and his gang, written by E. Cole, performed in Sydney in 1907[70]
Such Is Life – a ballet by Edward Borovansky with music by Verdon Williams, performed in Sydney in 1951[71]
The Jerilderie Letter written by Peter Finlay, performed in Melbourne in 2007[72]
Quilting the Armour, the Kelly story through the eyes of its women. First performed at the Old Melbourne Gaol in 2006.[73]
[change]Plants
Grevillea Ned Kelly – a small shrub of the grevillea family, about 2 m (7 ft) tall, green leaves, with orange to red flowers



Again ...... How is any of that Propaganda.

Please explain ......

Id like to know what your definition of Propaganda is ....

Ned Kelly books & films /// Abraham Lincoln Books & Films. (( whats the differences ) Cept Abraham Lincoln is a know rapist & he even farthered children to African slaves. ( bet cha Spielberg did not put that in the Hollywood movie. )
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