It's all fine to say that Orangetom, but it's complete nonsense.
Oh no Rath..it is the greatest difference in this nation and other nations. That a peope have private property and the discretion over it..not the government first and the people somewhere down the road. It is on this basis that the charter of our government was written. This because of the methods of a Sovereign who disregarded the ability of a people to determine what to do with thier private property.
Everything the USA is ..... comes from things you have copied from other nations over the past few hundred years.
So forgive me if i laugh when you claim thing like, orangetom1999 wrote:
Those of us who know what it is to be American have no desire to follow the rest of the world and be like them. We do not want to follow a sovereign. We value our private property .
Not copied rath..examined...but not copied. For example we have a law system where one proves guilt ..not where the individual has to prove their innocence as is done in most nations. This here is called the presumption of innocence. In most nations in the world the presumption is of guilt and the individual has to prove their innocence.
We Americans have no desire to follow the presumption of guilt. And this is where it is going with this new gun control business...that Americans are guilty but were not involved in the crime being touted in the news but yet the news and leaders are operating on the presumption that Americans who own guns are guilty of some kind of tresspass. It is not so..and if this is how the rest of the world thinks and acts...we dont want it here. Presumtion of guilt. No thanks.
Someone here, in like manner to the rest of the world, is attempting to do the same with rich people ..operating on the presumption that rich people have broken some higher law ..therefore it is kosher to persecute and try rich people in the press and the body politic and work to take property from them as well. Yet no law has been broken by them. No court case has taken place..not trial...no guilty verdict.
It is easy to predict that more of this will be taking place..trial by press and mob justice. This is not the American way...but it is the world way..international way. No thanks ..it does not belong here. But it is easy to predict that we are going to see more of this kind of Un American conduct on the part of our leadership.
Last few hundred years..copied from the rest of the world?? Wow!! Are you ever way off. Try thousands of years. Public schooling Rath??
The Founders here knew the history of many nations and thier laws going back before the Greeks. They examined them and liked certain items of their histories and did not like others. They also knew enough to examine the histories of these nations...how and why they failed.
This is why our governing document is so peculear. It is actually a very short document compared to the governing documents of most nations.
And government educated wise men have been trying to sneak around it ever since the beginning..often without the people knowing they have done this.
Those of us who know this hisotry have no desire to become like the rest of the world..no matter what their laws say. We will go our own way.