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Postby CodeBlackv2 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:58 pm

Nigfis, I think you are missing my point. You aren't going to stop the bad guys with sherry and giggles. Those bombs might. The world is connected. You can't wall yourself off and let the world go to hell. There is no such thing as "mind your own business", anymore.

And as far as feeling safe goes, well, the world runs on fear anyway. We just have to learn to deal with it.
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Postby greeney2 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:39 am

Missing the point and not wanting to see the point is 2 different things, missing requires hearing the point, digesting it, and deciding.
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Postby Nigfis » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:44 am

CodeBlackv2 wrote:Nigfis, I think you are missing my point. You aren't going to stop the bad guys with sherry and giggles. Those bombs might. The world is connected. You can't wall yourself off and let the world go to hell. There is no such thing as "mind your own business", anymore.
......... And yet...... Those countries I listed from the Global Peace Index, tell a different story to yours. There is indeed such a thing as 'mind you own business', not only that, but the vast majority of countries know it too.
Interestingly, the global peace index says that, "If the world had been completely peaceful in 2011, the economic benefit would have been an estimated US $9 trillion".. Can you even imagine the good that could be done with $9 Trillion?

Iceland, Denmark, New Zealand, Canada & Japan..... As peaceful as you like. And despite 'minding their own business' in the military sense, are fully engaged in World politics when needed...

And as far as feeling safe goes, well, the world runs on fear anyway.

And that's where you are wrong CodeBlackv2. The World does NOT run on fear. Your part might, and the fear you bring to other people is very real, but the World at large can be a peaceful place. Maybe you're looking in the wrong areas?
Your 'war on terror' seems to be about terrorising yourselves so you'll accept the atrocities the US commits in the name of 'keeping you safe.'

Remember this from Obama, just recently? : "And there's no country on earth that would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside its borders.".

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We just have to learn to deal with it.
We? As in 'we' the ones doing the terrorising? Certainly not the 'we' as in being on the receiving end of those missiles.
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Postby Nigfis » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:53 am

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Edited. No baiting, instigating, or name-calling.
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Postby Nigfis » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:10 am

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All getting a bit one-sided this John... and now you've limited my use of bb codes, Why?

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Postby Nigfis » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:16 am

Here's another taste of what the topic is about.........


Cameras Inside Mannequins Spying on Shoppers

High-tech dummies to record conversations
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
November 21, 2012
Just when you thought it was impossible for surveillance to get any creepier, a company has announced it has created mannequins with cameras installed inside that can be used to spy on shoppers and record their conversations – and that they’ve already been rolled out at numerous fashion stores across the world.
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The EyeSee mannequin, developed by Italian firm Almax, relies on technology used to identify criminals in airports that utilizes facial recognition software to identify the race, age and gender of the shopper and feeds that information back to a centralized database. The camera is embedded in the eye of the mannequin.
The company refused to divulge which retailers were using the mannequins, but acknowledged that they were already being used in three European countries and in the United States. CEO Max Catanese added that five major luxury fashion retailers had deployed “a few dozen” of the mannequins, with orders for many more.
The company is planning to update the technology inside the $5,000 dollar mannequins to enable them to listen in on shoppers’ conversations as they walk around the store.
The surveillance devices are ostensibly used to build a profile of what type of shoppers are entering the store, at what times and what they are looking at. However, privacy campaigners expressed concern that the technology was just another example of the commercial sector turning to Big Brother in a bid to increase profits.
“Keeping cameras hidden in a mannequin is nothing short of creepy. The use of covert surveillance technology by shops, in order to provide a personalised service, seems totally disproportionate,” said Emma Carr, deputy director of civil liberties campaign group Big Brother Watch.
“The fact that the cameras are hidden suggests that shops are fully aware that many customers would object to this kind of monitoring,” she added.
Lawyer Christopher Mesnooh also pointed out that since there is no warning that customers are being recorded, the mannequin spies could represent a violation of privacy laws.
“If you go on Facebook, before you start the registration process, you can see exactly what information they are going to collect and what they’re going to do with it,” Mesnooh told Bloomberg. “If you’re walking into a store, where’s the choice?”
What’s next? Is DARPA going to animate the mannequins and turn them into security guards that spring to life to apprehend shoplifters?
Shopping is becoming the front line of cutting edge invasive surveillance in a myriad of different ways, from RFID tags in clothing to airport-style naked body scanners that help shoppers decide if clothes fit – as well as firing radio waves at their skin that health experts have warned could damage human DNA.
Earlier this year, Redpepper, a company based in Nashville, TN, announced that it had created a Facebook app thatworked with facial recognition cameras to identify customers as they entered bars and shops and then delivered discount coupons to their mobile phone.
Although the company behind the spy dummies claims the technology is “blind” and will not be used to identify individuals, despite the fact that the same technology is already being used to identify individuals in airports, how far away are we from the kind of nightmare scenario depicted in the following scenes from Minority Report?

Continues here: http://www.infowars.com/cameras-inside- ... -shoppers/

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Hoe is THAT sitting with you folks?
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Postby blackvault » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:28 am

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No, this is not one-sided. You, along with others, are receiving warnings for you baiting others, name calling, etc. This is not up for discussion, you're a smart person, you can figure out what is out of line, and what isn't.

Secondly, no one limited your use of BB Codes. You clicked on the "Quick Reply" button at the bottom. Simply click on the button that says "Full Editor" and you will have access to the main menu.

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Postby Nigfis » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:42 am

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This is your official public warning. Let the issue go, or your account with be suspended. The time for baiting, instigating, and these poor, immature tactics are over. You can text me privately, but any other public display against me, or anyone else, will get your account suspended.

The rules are simple and minimal. Show respect.



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Secondly, no one limited your use of BB Codes. You clicked on the "Quick Reply" button at the bottom. Simply click on the button that says "Full Editor" and you will have access to the main menu.

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Postby greeney2 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:20 am

Does it make a difference if shoplifting cameras are in the eye of a mannequin, or the eye in the sky like Las Vegas, or riding shotgun on the stagecoach in the old west? There are too many dishonest people out stealing. Ever seen shoplifters caught on camera, they get pretty brazen? I'm glad they catch the f^%$ing idiots, they make us all pay for it.
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Postby greeney2 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:44 am

Nigfis wrote:Remember this from Obama, just recently? : "And there's no country on earth that would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside its borders.".


Nazi V1 and V2 rockets, and the UK!
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