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What do you think about Obama?

As the 2012 election is now over, Barack Obama has won a second term. Many wonder how his policies, his administration, and how the entire political arena, will change our future.

Postby capricorn » Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:39 am

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Postby Aquatank » Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:50 am

My opinion of Obama.... It isn't good. Over 300 Rightwing decisions have been made by Obama that completely alienate him from the Leftwing. The CPUSA's support of him in 2008 was misguided and motivated by the politics of fear, Obama is not a Socialist, and certainly not a Communist he is for all intents in purposes a Rightwing politician masquerading as a Leftwing. His main problem is that he is TOO COMPROMISING and shows TOO MUCH POLITICAL WEAKNESS to the Rightwing, this is something that allows him to be so savaged by the Rightwing in various media. Politically the Republicans have a problem because Obama is Rightwing he can pass what they want BUT any such win for them becomes a win for Obama, and that is a problem; a weak, compromising President becoming a symbol of success for the opposition party using/claiming their national tactics & strategies. It does not matter that for all intents and purposes the Democrats & Republicans have become virtually the same party. One is like Cherry Kool Aid the other is like Strawberry Kool Aid and most of the populace IS DRINKING THE KOOL AID. Examples: Both Major Parties want to reduce Medicare spending to 3.2% of GDP (if I rememeber right) the only difference is how but the end result is the same. Both Major Parties want to reduce Unemployment to 3%-5.9% the only difference is how BUT neither will attempt to or claim they can reduce it to 0%-.25% (unlike the Greens who believe 0% is possible in a single term). The fact of the matter is Obama or Romney doesn't matter the targets of both parties are largely the same and the wake disruptions will be identical as well. One thing I do know is this the Great Depression was at least twice as bad as the Great Recession and it took 16 years to crawl out of, half as bad should mean half as long to climb out of that means NO ONE would have gotten the USA on its feet gain in one term because it should take at least 7.5 years (two presidential terms).

I'm no fan of Obama either, I voted for Cynthia McKinney last time & I'm voting for Jill Stein this time. The rest of the nation can feel free to choose their favorite flavor of Kool Aid.
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Postby En-Lugal » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:56 am

Kool Aid is bad, mmmkay? :P I can't bring myself to vote for either party, myself. It'll probably be a write-in of Ron Paul or a vote for Gary Johnson. I'm still undecided on that front while watching the pony show called the debates. I do know that it isn't looking good for Obama/Biden right now, not that it ever did. Let's face it, the only reason Obama got elected is because he's black and white America has been assailed with "white guilt" by Liberals for decades. Hopefully the Supreme Court will repeal affirmative action and get rid of this nonsense. It's gone way too far and done more to keep racism alive and well than anything the over-reactive media could've done to fan the flames.

In fact, I think it's because of affirmative action and political correctness that the media has had such an impact. Quite frankly, there indeed is a spirit or recognition of inequality in this country. It's root is in affirmative action and the rigged system put in place by guilt-ridden-apologetic-Liberals. The welfare and food stamp system is plagued with generations of lazy, entitled, good-for-nothing free-loaders. Guess who the majority of them are? Yep, minorities. Americans that bust their ass to live week to week, paycheck to paycheck, are sick and tired of paying everyone else's way. Especially when they are able-bodied but riddled with excuses.

Like my family of five. My wife is the only one working right now and has been for 21 months. Our kids attend public school, the so-called "free education". Guess what, it's not free. We are struggling to pay bills and yet these schools want hundreds of dollars, or more, a year in fees per child. Guess why. Yep, because we are paying for someones else's kid. I can't get a job thanks to affirmative action that says employers have to hire a bunch of welfare recipients, that don't want to work and grudgingly show up and try to get fired. It's racist and hypocritical yet I am labeled a racist for pointing it out. That's the Liberal mentality. :roll:
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Postby Aquatank » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:18 am

En Lugal regarding Food Stamps and Welfare I Strongly Suggest you read up on some of the facts before blanket statements like "The welfare and food stamp system is plagued with generations of lazy, entitled, good-for-nothing free-loaders. Guess who the majority of them are? Yep, minorities."
http://www.fns.usda.gov/ora/MENU/Publis ... istics.htm
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 84,00.html

Perception is what subverts facts. Example there are 27 Million Slaves around the globe today, More than at any othertime in history, yet it is illegal nearly everywhere. How does it flourish because as a percentage of the population it has gone down, thusly it becomes largely unseen. If one sees a group participating in certain actions and that group though a small percentage (even insignificant percentage) is the Majority of that group the viewer observes it skews the viewers perception of the group as a whole causing blanket inferrence hypothesis of the whole group's actions. In simple terms its bad statistical sampling because it is neither random nor widespread.
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Postby greeney2 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:13 am

The lies about the Libyan embassy will be Obama's downfall. With 2 more debates, he is not going to be able to fake it on this one, and Romney has had a shot in the arm since the first debate. Biden laughing it off in his debate will stick in the craw and as Obama digs a deeper hole with this, the Binden laughing bit is going to amplify, as the voters look at the total package.

They may seem like nice men, but we are worse off, we can not afford more, we need to let them go, as Clint Eastwood put it.
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Postby En-Lugal » Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:56 pm

Aquatank wrote:En Lugal regarding Food Stamps and Welfare I Strongly Suggest you read up on some of the facts before blanket statements like "The welfare and food stamp system is plagued with generations of lazy, entitled, good-for-nothing free-loaders. Guess who the majority of them are? Yep, minorities."
http://www.fns.usda.gov/ora/MENU/Publis ... istics.htm
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 84,00.html

Perception is what subverts facts. Example there are 27 Million Slaves around the globe today, More than at any othertime in history, yet it is illegal nearly everywhere. How does it flourish because as a percentage of the population it has gone down, thusly it becomes largely unseen. If one sees a group participating in certain actions and that group though a small percentage (even insignificant percentage) is the Majority of that group the viewer observes it skews the viewers perception of the group as a whole causing blanket inferrence hypothesis of the whole group's actions. In simple terms its bad statistical sampling because it is neither random nor widespread.


Yes, an eight year old article with arguably vague slanted statistics and an article from exactly the type of Liberal I described. What were either of those links supposed to impart on me? Lumping in SSI recipients, really? The "blame whitey" rhetoric was priceless. :lol: Nice facts. Yes, white people get assistance too. :roll: I talked about those with multiple generations living on the system. That was the whole point. Nice dodge though, pretty typical as are your links. How about illegals or minorities other than blacks? You talk about perception and then give those links?
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Postby Aquatank » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:23 pm

One nice thing about real stats is they tend to confirmable and testable. But Federal Aid to the poor is something that MUST remain. Obama & Romney want unemployment to be between 3%-5.9% Unfortunately this does not solve the long term problem, we need to create a system with 0% unemployment that pays enough in wages to make a living, the reason we need such a system is a 40% Population increase in the USA by 2050. If we fail to address poverty, food production , housing, education and employment adquetely or better we are going to have massive increasing problems of substantial economic and social impact by 2050.

Obama and Romney aren't going to change that. The problem is a mismatched structural problem Democratic Government but Totalitarian Heirachial Businesses. The solution to our nation, ye eveb the world at large problems, is to rid ourselves of the Totalitarian Heirarchial Business model and replace it with worker owned and operated Democratic model. The Textile Mill Workers in the 1830s knew this was they way, we should as well. The Government and the Business in the USA should be democracies thusly synchronicity and symbiosis follow. By creating the new model and supplanting the old model we sidestep the Aristocracy and allow wealth & income to flow more evenly thusly completely reducing the need for Federal Aid to the poor to 0%. Citizens will still be pooling their money ,in the form of taxes, for SS and Medicaid For All as well as other government programs but I believe that we Americans can create a better future that accomadates that new population growth as well as find ways to halt population growth. But Obama and Romney aren't going to do much other than maintain a failing status quo.
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Postby _Billy_ » Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:27 pm

Obama is a monkey's ass,
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Postby Halfabo » Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:41 am

Don't insult monkeys like that Billy.
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Postby rath » Wed Dec 26, 2012 5:11 am

What do i think about Obama ..... ???

I don't.

I hardly sit around wondering what Obama is up to on the other side of the world, from one minute to the next.

Hell do you ever find yourself wondering if you like the Australian Prime minister.

maybe you think about the President of Mali from time to time.

(( no i didn't think so ))
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