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Re: What are numbers?

Postby at1with0 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:17 am

Numbers can be thought of as quantification but the truth about numbers is that they are not defined as a quantification.
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Re: What are numbers?

Postby DIss0n80r » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:27 am

You cannot have relations without quantification.
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Re: What are numbers?

Postby at1with0 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:53 am

This is the second time today this point proved to be controversial.
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Re: What are numbers?

Postby DIss0n80r » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:59 am

:o
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Re: What are numbers?

Postby at1with0 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:19 am

I believe that there are abstract relations that can't be quantified just for the record.
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Re: What are numbers?

Postby DIss0n80r » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:27 am

Strange loops?
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Re: What are numbers?

Postby at1with0 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:39 am

No more basic than that.
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Re: What are numbers?

Postby DIss0n80r » Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:26 pm

Don't leave me hangin'.
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Re: What are numbers?

Postby at1with0 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:12 pm

Well, basically, a relation not involving numbers would seem to be an instance of a relation without quantification.
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Re: What are numbers?

Postby DIss0n80r » Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:51 pm

Give us one or two examples.
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