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Postby greeney2 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:31 pm

He directly defied an order to return them as stolen from the United States of America. He and Wikileaks were in possession of stolen documnets, which is a crime. He knowingly posted them defying orders not to. Illegal possession of stolen property is a crime in every country I know of. You yourself admit they were stolen, and admit Assange had possession of them.
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Postby rath » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:38 pm

greeney2 wrote:He directly defied an order to return them as stolen from the United States of America. He and Wikileaks were in possession of stolen documnets, which is a crime. He knowingly posted them defying orders not to. Illegal possession of stolen property is a crime in every country I know of. You yourself admit they were stolen, and admit Assange had possession of them.


Stolen by an American .... YES.

Did Julian Assange ever have any contact or possession of the Documents, ( there is no evidence he ever did )
There are / were many people working for wikileaks, any one of them could have received the documents from Manning & posted them.

That is Assuming Manning didn't give the Documents to China or Russia.
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Postby greeney2 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:54 pm

And you do not know that he did. You know he had them because he was in months of contacts with Washington. He never denied having them, he admitted it, the issue was if he would not post them all over the internet. Here you go again, defending his innocence, when you do not know a single thing about what really happened.
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Postby rath » Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:00 pm

greeney2 wrote:And you do not know that he did. You know he had them because he was in months of contacts with Washington. He never denied having them, he admitted it, the issue was if he would not post them all over the internet. Here you go again, defending his innocence, when you do not know a single thing about what really happened.


Bullsh#t .....

The New york times & The Guardian newspapers were the ones who published the Classified documents.

Not Julian Assange.

Again ........ There is no proof Julian Assange had any involvement other then setting up a web page
( which is entirely legal )

Julian Assange & Wikileaks ran the Wikileaks web site.

Bradly Manning stole classified US document & he uploaded the stolen document. ( he even told his friends that )
& the New York times & The Guardian newspapers, Published the Classified Documents.

On 28 November, the first 220 cables were published under this agreement by El País (Spain), Der Spiegel (Germany), Le Monde (France), The Guardian (United Kingdom) and The New York Times (United States).[4] WikiLeaks had planned to release the rest over several months, and as of 11 January 2011, 2,017 had been published.

BUT

The News papers hacked the wikileaks web site & stole the documents Bradly Manning posted & the News Papers not Julian Assange published the classified cables & made them public.

So here we are ...... where the U.S government has committed war crimes by Killed people & pay Bribes to the & selling weapons to the likes of Saddam Husein & Asama bin Laden, colonel Gaddafi, & Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

& It was an American ( Bradly Manning ) who stole the Classified documents & gave them to the Russians or other terrorist groups to upload to wikileaks, or he himself uploaded them to Wikileaks.

& we have American news papers who stole the documents from Wikileaks & published them in the public arena for all to see and read.

Yet it's Jualian Assange who the USA has a search & destroy mission against while the real Traitors, who are all American get of Scott free.



Wikileaks blames newspaper over 'insurance' file password disclosure.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/wikileaks ... sure/57035
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Postby greeney2 » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:48 am

Runs from Sweden, that doesn't work! Hides in England, that doesn't work! Gets arrested, goes to trial, that doesn't work! Goes all the way to UK Supreme Court, that doesn't work! Supreme court appeal, that doesn't work! Assylm in the Equador Embassy, That doesn't work! No other options but to hide in the embassy, HE SENDS HIS MOMMY TO ECUADOR TO BEG FOR HIM. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Only a Mother and Rath could love this guy. :P :P :P



Assange's mother says WikiLeaks founder under stress
By Eduardo Garcia | Reuters – 2 hrs 27 mins agoShare0EmailPrintRelated ContentA supporter of WikiLeaks founder …
QUITO (Reuters) - The mother of Julian Assange, visiting Ecuador on Monday to plea for her son's asylum request, said the WikiLeaks founder is under extreme psychological stress and feels his only option is to seek safety in Ecuador.

Assange has been taking refuge in the Ecuadorean embassy in London since June 19. The former computer hacker, who enraged Washington in 2010 when his WikiLeaks website published secret U.S. diplomatic cables, is wanted for questioning in Sweden over sex crime allegations.

The Australian anti-secrecy campaigner has broken his bail terms and requested asylum in Ecuador because he fears he could be bundled to the United States where his life would be at risk.

"He is freedom loving, he cannot run, he cannot go outside to see the sky, outside the UK police wait like dogs to take him ... he cannot exercise the way he normally could and he's under extreme psychological stress," Christine Assange said in a live interview with local television.

Julian Assange's mother was due to meet Ecuador's foreign minister, Ricardo Patino, on Monday to plea for her son's asylum request.

"I am not here to demand asylum, I come to humbly ask, as his mother," she said.

The Ecuadorean government has said that it will take as long as needed to make a thorough analysis of Assange's asylum application before making a decision.

Comments by Patino last week suggested that Ecuador will refrain from announcing a decision regarding Assange's asylum application until the end of the Olympic games as a sign of respect for the UK government.

Assange's mother said that her son chose Ecuador because its constitution enshrines human rights and because it does not have the death penalty.

She also referred to leftist President Rafael Correa as "very brave" and said she trusts that Correa will not allow his country's sovereignty to be manipulated by foreign interests.

Christine Assange said she fears that the United States will move to extradite her son if he is sent to Sweden.

Neither the U.S. nor Swedish authorities has charged Assange with anything. Swedish prosecutors want to question him about allegations of rape and sexual assault made by two WikiLeaks supporters in 2010.

Assange says he had consensual sex with the women.

(Editing by Vicki Allen)
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Postby greeney2 » Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:32 pm

I don't know what wrong with your Austrailian hero Rath, but his ranting to Obama to do the right thing is pathetic. First and formost, the United States has done nothing to him, his legal problems have been 100% a result of Sweden wanting him, and the UK allowing an entire string of trials to fight extradition. What on earth does his jumping bail in the UK and defying their Supreme Court have to do with the USA and Obama. At least he comfirmed he has not snuck out of the embassy. The UK will never allow him to go from the Ebassy to the airport and take off. How can they allow anyone to defy their highest court, and to violate a bail granted with his word not to be a flight risk?


Assange speaks from Ecuador embassy balcony, slams U.S. ‘witch hunt’
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Assange speaks from a balcony at the Ecuadorean Embassy in London, Aug. 19, 2012. (Kirsty Wigglesworth/AP)
There was no arrest. No escape. No surrender. No assassination attempt. No human smuggling. No helicopter or hovercraft. Just a wanted man, on a balcony with a microphone.

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange emerged from a window onto a small balcony of the Ecuadorean Embassy on Sunday, where he made his first public remarks since being granted asylum.

"I ask President Obama to do the right thing," Assange, who's been holed up in the embassy since June, said as he read a written statement. "The United States must renounce its witch hunt against WikiLeaks. The Unites States must dissolve its FBI investigation. The United States must vow that it will not seek to prosecute our staff or our supporters."

A crowd of 200 gathered near the embassy to hear Assange speak as dozens of London police officers--who had created a wide barrier in front of the embassy--stood watch.

[Slideshow: The scene outside the embassy]

On Thursday, Ecuador's foreign minister announced that the country would grant asylum to Assange, defying threats by the British government to storm the Ecuadorean Embassy and extradite Assange to Sweden, where he is wanted for questioning in cases of alleged rape and sexual molestation.

"We have decided to grant political asylum to him," Ricardo Patino said at the end of a long televised statement from the Ecuadorean capital of Quito, where he criticized the U.S. and U.K. governments for failing to protect Assange from political persecution.

"The sun came up on a different world," Assange said, "and a courageous Latin American nation took a stand for justice."

On Sunday, Assange did not address the allegations of sexual crime, or when the diplomatic standoff between Sweden, Ecuador and the U.K. might end.

Assange also called for the release of Bradley Manning, the former U.S. army intelligence analyst accused of leaking classified documents to WikiLeaks.

"If Bradley Manning did as he is accused, he is a hero and an example to all of us and one of the world's foremost political prisoners," Assange said.

Assange fears that if he were extradited to Sweden, he would immediately be extradited to the United States, which has condemned WikiLeaks' publication of classified documents. Assange and his supporters say the U.S. would charge him with espionage; the U.S. has not said whether or not it would pursue charges against him.

The foreign minister said that Ecuador asked Sweden to promise it would not extradite Assange to the United States, but Sweden refused.

[Related: Ecuador grants Assange asylum; UK vows to 'carry out' extradition]

It's unclear what will happen to Assange now. U.K. authorities say his asylum is a violation of his probation, and he'll be arrested if he tried to leave the embassy.

"We will not allow Mr. Assange safe passage out of the United Kingdom," British Foreign Secretary William Hague said at a press conference last week. "Nor is there any legal basis for us to do so. The United Kingdom does not recognize the principle of diplomatic asylum."

On Sunday, Assange claimed that he heard police enter the embassy the night after he had been granted asylum. "Inside this embassy after dark, I could hear teams of police swarming up into the building through its internal fire escape," Assange said. "But I knew there would be witnesses."

In 2010, Swedish prosecutors in Stockholm issued warrants to question Assange about alleged sex crimes involving a pair of former WikiLeaks volunteers. Assange claims the charges are part of an international smear campaign stemming from WikiLeaks' publication of diplomatic cables.

After a brief international manhunt, Assange turned himself in to London police in December 2010. He was granted bail and placed under house arrest. After Assange's appeals to fight his extradition to Sweden were denied, he fled to the Ecuadorean Embassy.
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Postby bionic » Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:29 am

I am very confused about how I feel about this guy..to be honest..
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Postby chiselray » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:46 am

greeney2 wrote:No, I did not make it up, it was well publized during all this and a fact. Look it up for yourself, I could care less, his womanizing ways was well known. Deny all you like about this jerk, he is now running.


a jerk ? and your country is constantly being tainted as hypocrites and killers ???BUT forgive me... i guess being found guilty of being a jerk is much more of a crime in the US !!
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Postby greeney2 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:04 am

You are sounding as ignorant as Rath, his own Wikileaks people were the ones saying what a womanizer he was.
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Postby rath » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:08 pm

greeney2 wrote:You are sounding as ignorant as Rath, his own Wikileaks people were the ones saying what a womanizer he was.


Why do you feel the need to lie greeney.

just stick to the facts an stop making things up.

As i have already shown b4, the so called wikileak members you keep talking about are infact EX-WIKILEAK MEMBERS, who where fired & shut out of wikileaks because thay could not be trusted or were bad at there job.

So the now disgruntled EX-wikileak members, are cashing in on the money by doing t.v / newspaper / magazine / online interviews were they seek to get even with Julian Assange by lying & trashing his reputation, not to mention sell out wikileaks by providing information to the u,s government that most the time is a lie.

All to get even with Julian Assange & Wikileaks for being shut out of the group.

It's a classic case of sour grapes.
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