Banning same sex marriage puts quite a bit of emphasis on sex.
This is not the point I was making at all. I disapprove of these groups because their main stock in trade is sex and sexuality. I also disapprove of heteros I know..married and not married who's same stock in trade is sex and sexuality.
I think people are more than this kind of shallowness.
I do not give respect nor approval to people on this single basis. And to demand it of others and then when you dont get it...does not justify lableing, and other vitriol against others. This is just plain dumb and also censorship.
You do not do well by becoming the thing you hate in others.
This is the same vitriol you see from many atheists..and it comes from the same source.
Whenever men try to declare their greatness...they must always need return to the baseness of sex and sexuality. History is replete with this "Illogic."
I am not speaking against sex and sexuality per se. I am stating that people are more than just this one fingerprint. Much much more.
And to demand respect and approval on this one singular identifier..or index is just plain stupid. But it is logic and reason...human logic and reason.
By that rationale, no one should be allowed to marry. You haven't identified something that is fundamentally different between same sex and opposite sex marriages.
You are misquoting or misrepresenting what I stated above..or you just dont get it. I most certainly have identified a fundamental fingerprint. I also said I dont approve of certain heteros for the same reason.
What you call a guilt manipulation method I call an ANALOGY.
It is not a good one. For you see the woman's movement ..just like the homosexual movement has gelled down to ...It's all about sex and sexuality.
Just like a talk show format. Take the sex and sexuality away..and you have no program. Do I need to take lie detector or DNA test on this one???
I'll take it a step further....take the drama away around sex and sexuality and you have no program again.
It is the same with the slavery issue. Drama. It is a crutch to put others on the defensive and censor them and their views though no one has been a slave in that sense for over a hundred years. Drama and censorship again.
I would venture to state that all these groups...the Homosexuals, the women's groups and the Slavery department are all being run and controlled at the top by the same people....and for and towards the same goal...votes and control.
Emotional control..for votes. They are puppets on a string...and are attempting to put us on the same strings. And by the responses here..it works well.
You can see them coming ...with predictability for you can see the body politic stroking these groups with drama and sexuality particularly before elections.
You can see it right now....taking place. Continued "Victimization Stroking"
Tiring, wolfie, and predictable. All three of these groups try to work guilt manipulation politics on the public. Which is why I say they are all controlled at the top by the same people and for the same purposes.
And some of the public are beginning to catch on and are speaking of it to others to awaken them.
Is OT against opposite-sex marriage
I stated to at1with0 that I am against certain hetero relationships for the same reason..not all of them.
I had this conversation on line with a homosexual some years ago on ATS..and explained to him that people are so much more than sex and sexualty...and to my surprise he agreed with me. I was a but stunned because so many of them are disagreeagle and vitriolic on this topic. I was not quite prepared to have him agree with me and that he understood the point.
I find many heteros and also homosexuals have problems understanding the concept that people are more than sex and sexuality. To much public education/drama thinking going on in them.
I am not speaking against sex and sexuality per se...I am saying don't declare yourself dumb and ignorant by only having this one tool in your tool box of thinking and debate. Hetero or homo.
Sex and sexuality are not who or what we are...in toto.