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Postby khanster » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:00 pm

An atheist dies, his spirit or "ghost" gets torn to shreds by demonic beings and he is rescued by Jesus before being sent back to his body, afterwards he becomes a Bible believing Christian.

Some of these near death experiences appear to provide very compelling evidence for the existence of Heaven, hell, and the afterlife...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 2814040004

http://www.neardeathsite.com/storm.php

Before his near-death experience, Howard Storm, a Professor of Art at Northern Kentucky University, was not a very pleasant man. He was an avowed atheist and was hostile to every form of religion and those who practiced it. He often would use rage to control everyone around him and he didn’t find joy in anything. Anything that wasn’t seen, touched or felt, he had no faith in. He knew with certainty that the material world was the full extent of everything that was. He considered all belief systems associated with religion to be fantasies for people to deceive themselves with. Beyond what science said, there was nothing else.

On June 1, 1985, at the age of 38, Howard Storm’s had a near-death experience due to a perforation of the stomach and his life was since forever changed. His near-death experience is one of the most profound, if not the most profound, afterlife experience I have ever documented. His life was so immensely changed after his near-death experience, he resigned as a professor and devoted his time attending the United Theological Seminary to become a United Church of Christ minister.
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Postby at1with0 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:27 pm

Their testimony suggests something is happening but what exactly is still not provable. The mind indoctrinated by standard Aristotelian and other Western thought systems will thus reject all such testimony. It's a shame because the assumption that the universe is rational isn't quite that safe. Ironically, logic can't be used to prove the infallibility of logic and, for such indoctrinated people with an automatically-smaller imagination, the lack of proof of proof is something they just shrug off.
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Postby khanster » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:12 pm

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/research11.html

Dr. Pim van Lommel: In January of 2001, near-death experiences and near-death research earned greater scientific respect and credibility when the findings of a particular NDE study were published. The distinguished British medical journal The Lancet published an article by Dr. Pim van Lommel of the Rijnstate Hospital in the Netherlands on the first large-scale study of NDEs which he conducted.

His study began in 1988 and lasted 13 years. It included 344 survivors of cardiac arrest from 10 Dutch hospitals. Of these 344 survivors, 18 percent experienced a NDE. And because Lommel and his staff conducted follow-up interviews with these patients over many years, they were able to rule out such factors as apoxia, seizures, medication, etc. Lommel's findings confirmed prior research findings conducted by other near-death researchers. It confirmed that NDEs are real and they cannot be explained by physiological or psychological causes alone. Lommel also accepted the implication that consciousness survives death and that consciousness is not completely dependant upon the brain.

Lommel noted that only 10 seconds after the heart stops beating, the electroencephalogram goes dead. At this point, there is no activity in the brain cortex and the brain cannot manufacture visions. Within 10 minutes, brain stem activity ceases and irreparable brain damage can occur. However, Lommel notes that some patients still reported being conscious at this point. One particular example cited by Lommel is a man who came into the hospital already blue from a lack of oxygen. The hospital staff spent 90 minutes trying to resuscitate him, using artificial respiration, heart massage and defibrillation, before they could move him to intensive care where he was remained in a coma for a week with brain damage. But when the patient regained consciousness, he was able to describe events that occurred around him while he was brain damaged and out of his body.
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