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Postby greeney2 » Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:48 am

We watched from start to finish. Thought some parts were very good, some things were very confusing what they ment, and did not like some of the commentary that was uncalled for. Costas should just report on the sports end of it, and leave the politics out of it. We all hear non-stop about the bad news everyday, and the Olympics are the glimmer of hope for something to bring all nations togather. Like them or not, why punish the Atheletes over their countries. I thought it was really unnessessary to make political commentary when Iran, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Libya, and Egypt all came in.

I also thought it was very unnessesary to make referrences to Bejing almost from the first minutes, how they were going to be hard to live up to. If you want to look at Bejing, look at how the Olympic venues have deterioated and many are just run down forgotten places, overgrown with weeds and unused 4 years later.

We are looking forward to enjoying the Olympics, but what I do not enjoy is the medal scoreboard every night, and the dismissing silver and Bronze, like they are unworthy, and anything under Bronze, is a disgrace.
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Postby rath » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:45 am

It was crap, it was more Australian than british.

Mary Poppins is an Australian book written by an Australian .... how did Mary Poppins make it into the English opening ceremony.

Give the games back to Australia.

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Postby greeney2 » Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:34 am

Nobody cares to hear your spiel about how Austrailia invented Mary Poppins. The author left Austrailia 10 years before writing Mary Poppins, which included several in the series, all clearly written in the UK and published in the UK. They are not Austrailian literature, nor did Austrailia have anything to do with her Meeting Roy Disney during WW2 while she lived in the USA. Austrailia had nothing to do with her dealings with Disney, the 1964 movie, or any other projects involving this book. Your only claim is that she was born in Austrailia, and moved out a decade before Mary Poppins had its first word written.
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Postby rath » Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:47 pm

greeney2 wrote:Nobody cares to hear your spiel about how Austrailia invented Mary Poppins. The author left Austrailia 10 years before writing Mary Poppins, which included several in the series, all clearly written in the UK and published in the UK. They are not Austrailian literature, nor did Austrailia have anything to do with her Meeting Roy Disney during WW2 while she lived in the USA. Austrailia had nothing to do with her dealings with Disney, the 1964 movie, or any other projects involving this book. Your only claim is that she was born in Austrailia, and moved out a decade before Mary Poppins had its first word written.



Please.

where did you get your info (( Google )) right.

Helen Goff began publishing her poems while still a teenager and wrote for The Bulletin and Triad while also gaining a reputation as an actress; she soon adopted the stage name "Pamela Lyndon Travers". She toured Australia and New Zealand with a Shakespearean touring company before leaving for England in 1924.

Pamela Lyndon Travers died in 1996, you should read her bio & watch the interviews she did where she talks about her story's she wrote in Australia & her love & connection to Australia.

Youes lot can try an re-right history all you like but it changes nothing, her story's will never be English or American no matter what you all say.

They are not Austrailian literature, nor did Austrailia have anything to do with her Meeting Roy Disney during WW2 while she lived in the USA.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Not Australian, well not according to the author. get an idea mate. Pamela Lyndon Travers had always claimed her story's where Australian classics. Watch her interviews.

As for Disney, atleast you admit rip off yet more Australian classics & tried to pass them off as American.

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Postby greeney2 » Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:32 pm

Is something wrong with you Rath, I never once said this was an American writing. I just watched a 2 hour documentry about Walt Disney, and Disney did not rip her off whatsoever, anything but that. She sold the rights to Disney in 1959, and had consulting rights to the entire project. She was not happy with parts of the production, namely using animation and objections to some of the musical flare, however the money Disney made for her with the movie, made her a very wealthy woman the rest of her life. Disney did not cheat her if thats what you think, the movie at the time made $75M which was a blockbuster in the day. I am very sure she still gets royalties to this day off sales.

You asked where I got the information from, while you quote lines from searching the same internet.

There was nothing improper about the UK using this in the opening ceremony.
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Postby rath » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:31 am

greeney2 wrote:Is something wrong with you Rath,


Really, ........ you still need to ask that question.


greeney2 wrote:I never once said this was an American writing.


I never said that you did,

I was talking about Thomas the cat ( Felix the cat ) :D

greeney2 wrote:I just watched a 2 hour documentry about Walt Disney, and Disney did not rip her off whatsoever, anything but that. She sold the rights to Disney in 1959, and had consulting rights to the entire project. She was not happy with parts of the production, namely using animation and objections to some of the musical flare, however the money Disney made for her with the movie, made her a very wealthy woman the rest of her life. Disney did not cheat her if that's what you think, the movie at the time made $75M which was a blockbuster in the day. I am very sure she still gets royalties to this day off sales.

You asked where I got the information from, while you quote lines from searching the same internet.

There was nothing improper about the UK using this in the opening ceremony.


Yhe of course, all that is true ..... to a point. this is less about who did what & more about who's version you believe.

You watched a documentary about Walt Disney, & Walt Disney's version of history! as seen through the eyes of the Walt Disney corp & the Americans who probably wrote & produced the show. Well goodie gum drops.

All i can say is that is a vast improvement on when i First posted on how Mary Poppins was an Australian Book written by an Australian & you all claimed that marry Poppins was written by Walt Disney, Along with Snow white & Anastasia .... ect ect.

In the Same way the USA is trying to claim that the worlds first cartoon ( Felix the cat ) is American & not Australian.

Stop trying to re-right history to suit the USA.

Now having said all that. how is me claiming that the British trying to claim that Mary Popping is British & not Australian, Any different to the tedious & laborious documentary & news articles, that the rest of the world must put up with. Over weather Coca Cola was invented in Canada or the USA.

Do you think i care who created coca cola, i could give a rats.


There was nothing improper about the UK using this in the opening ceremony.


See ..... that's where we differ.

there are two reasons that it was a little sick to try an claim Mary Poppins as British via the opening ceremony at the Olympics.

1. Britain has been Claiming for decades, that Mary Popping is a Classic work of British Literature In the same way the USA is trying to claim that Felix the cat is American, & portraying Mary Poppins as a British book on the world stage is re-writing history in a manner that would make the Jews proud.

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2. & this was my main point before you went an got your patriotic knickers in a knot.

2. Britain has far better works than Marry Popping to use in the opening ceremony, so why did they use Mary Popping, in an attempt to claim Mary popping as their own on the world stage, when they could have used many far better works that are in fact British books.


Charles Dickens - Oliver Twist.
Arthur Conan Doyle - Sherlock Holmes.
Emily Bronte - Weathering Heights.
Lewis Carroll - Alice in Wonderland.
Jane Austen - Pride and Prejudice.
Charlotte Bronte - Jane Eyre.
Thomas Hardy - Return of the Native.
Lord of the Rings - J. R. R. Tolkien


Why Choose Mary Popping over all the other better Examples of British literature.

Next you will be claim Mark Twain is not an Australian. :D

( Joke ) Mark Twain is not an Australian.
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Postby greeney2 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:42 am

Seriously, something is wrong with you.
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Postby rath » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:56 am

greeney2 wrote:Seriously, something is wrong with you.


If you say so.
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Postby greeney2 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:05 am

NOTE AUSTRAILIA RATH, NOT A WORD ABOUT MARY POPPINS!


London 2012: What the world thought of the opening ceremony

The world watched as the London 2012 Olympic Games opened with director Danny Boyle's ode to England, but what did they think?

The three-hour show left viewers wondering what the next 17 days of Olympian action, billed as The Greatest Show on Earth, would bring and how Rio could possibly follow it in 2016 Photo: EDDIE MULHOLLAND

US

US media coverage hailed the British eccentricity of the opening ceremony, praised the humour, puzzled over some in-jokes and mused on what it all said about the country’s search for a post-imperial identity.

The New York Times headlined its review: “A Five-Ring Opening Circus, Weirdly and Unabashedly British”.

Sarah Lyall, the newspaper’s London correspondent, wrote: ”With its hilariously quirky Olympic opening ceremony, a wild jumble of the celebratory and the fanciful; the conventional and the eccentric; and the frankly off-the-wall, Britain presented itself to the world Friday night as something it has often struggled to express even to itself: a nation secure in its own post-empire identity, whatever that actually is.


“It was neither a nostalgic sweep through the past nor a bold vision of a brave new future. Rather, it was a sometimes slightly insane portrait of a country that has changed almost beyond measure since the last time it hosted the Games, in the grim postwar summer of 1948.”



The Washington Post wrote of an opening ceremony “full of sentiment, cheekiness” in a piece entitled: “Summer Olympics open with rock and droll”.

The newspaper continued: “If the Opening Ceremonies of the London Games sometimes seemed like the world’s biggest inside joke, the message from Britain resonated loud and clear: We may not always be your cup of tea, but you know — and so often love — our culture nonetheless.

China

Zhou Libo, a leading comedian and a host on “China’s Got Talent”, the Chinese version of the UK TV show, commented that “2008 Beijing was solemn, 2012 London is humour. Solemnity and stateliness tells the world you are strong. Humour lets the world feel you are strong; it’s about confidence.”

Huang Jianxing, one of the best-known sports commentators in China, also stressed the light-hearted nature of the ceremony. “Its strength was its humour and self-mocking tone. You could see that even the Queen was enjoying it.”

Ordinary Chinese were positive about the ceremony too, contrasting it to the much more formal Beijing 2008 Olympics ceremony. “I was shocked. I’d never have thought that you could have an opening ceremony like this,” said one Weibo user named Li Lingdang. “There was singing and dancing, JK Rowling, Mr Bean, James Bond , Beckham….The opening ceremony for Beijing was splendid but London’s was more individual.”

Australia

The Sydney Morning Herald said Danny Boyle displayed artistic genius in a brilliant balancing act. “It was not that Boyle was taking the piss, though that is like much else he brought to life this night, a time-honoured past-time in England. It was that he got the balance and tone just right; he was able somehow always to see the wood while watching 10,000 trees ... His show did not take itself too seriously, but was never trivial. It was irreverent, but never disrespectful. It was clever, but did not outsmart itself. It was at once subversive and sublime. This is a country of royals and aristocrats, but Boyle's show rejoiced in the commoner.”

Robyn Archer has been artistic director of innumerable Australian and international arts festivals and is presently creative director of the Centenary of Canberra. Archer was wowed by the fun of the ceremony’s grand scale.

“All I could think of was how much fun these guys [the creators] would have been having. You can’t do that level of spectacle inside a theatre,” said Archer. “That’s where you see the hand of Danny Boyle, a film maker who is used to working on sets of scale.”

The Queen’s willingness to participate in the fantasy element of the show will be long remembered.

“The king hit for me was the Queen and James Bond. It’s fantastic, it’s very funny, it’s iconic. It also shows her ability to be able to get into it, the fact she was willing to do that is spectacular,” Archer said.

Greece

Greeks this morning praised the ceremony as an entertaining show, but criticised what they described as a performance that was “too British” and lacking in messages of the original Olympic spirit. They said it was “too much of a big party” and carried a “sense of exaggerated British national pride and a sense of humour which not all the world understands.

“It was a successful, entertaining show, more like a big musical, a rock opera, a big party, rather than an Olympics ceremony,” said Panos Samaras, dispatched to London to cover the ceremony for Greece’s state-run NET TV network, the one which has the exclusive rights for coverage of the Olympic Games. “The British managed to successfully present their transition from an agricultural to an industrial and then high-tech society. But it was a musical that would have been more suitable for the Closing Ceremony than the Opening one”.

France

Sports newspaper L'Equipe, wrote: "To offer a morsel of bravery with the bombastic music from the film Chariots of Fire, but to then turn it into humour thanks to Mr Bean; to show the Queen of England, as herself, but then to show her parachuting above the stadium; to set up immense scenes paying homage to the NHS. The organisers of the London Games succeeded on Friday evening in creating enthusiasm with an opening ceremony that took the classic from such events and had fun with them."

While daily paper Le Parisien said: "So British....an opening ceremony that was magnificent, inventive and offbeat drawing heavily on the roots of British identity".

Germany

The German newspaper Die Welt praised the opening ceremony, calling it “spectacular, glitzy but also provoking and moving”. It also focused on the Queen’s cameo role alongside 007 Daniel Craig in the James-Bond feature, with the headline the “The New Bond Girl is 86”.

“Often seen as reserved and unapproachable, the Queen changed all that alongside James Bond,” said the paper.

Die Zeit hailed the London ceremony as the perfect “counterweight” to the opening ceremony in Beijing, which, for all its wonders, had “authoritarian traits”.

“The ceremony in London, with its dancing and humour, was much more relaxed. It was creative, it was the Spirit of London,” the paper said.

In a commentary piece the Suddeutsche Zeitung contrasted London 2012 with the 1908 Olympics, when the capital city, which then ruled a quarter of the globe, first hosted the city. Comparing the bluff and confident Britain of the past with the present, the paper said the latest games “might actually help Britain in its difficult search for an identity” which for many Britons “is not entirely clear”.

Russia

Several Russian observers seemed bemused by the episode in the Olympic Stadium dedicated to the NHS, in which children jumped on beds in their pajamas. One said it was “incomprehensible to non-Britons”.

Another wrote: “The participants of the ceremony forgot to take their night-time tablets and their beds have turned into trampolines.”

However, Dmitry Medvedev, Russia’s prime minister and the head of its delegation in London, appeared to be enjoying the show. He tweeted a picture from the stadium of fireworks bursting over the Orbit Tower.

Georgy Cherdantsev, one of Russia’s leading sports commentators, declared the ceremony “magnificently conceived and brilliantly executed.” He added: “After today’s spectacle there’s no point in Brazil spending money in 2016, they should just begin the competition straight away.”

India

Under the headline “Londoners let hair down for big party’, The Hindu noted that a city noisily split between what it called “Olympists and non-Olympists” came together for the opening ceremony, “seduced by hype and promise of spectacle”. The show itself was a tour-de-force, the paper said, adding that there was a refreshing lack of public whinging and moaning and concluding that it was impossible not to catch the Olympics bug.

“Queen in a helicopter, Beckham on a boat — what more can you ask for?” asked the Daily News and Analysis. “If anyone doubted whether or not the title ‘Isles of Wonder’ was far-fetched, they won't now,” it went on, concluding that “all in all, it was carried out with speed, skill and perhaps most importantly, with affection. That is how it should be.”

The tabloid Mail Today managed to get a picture of the fireworks onto its front page, under the headline “London Dreams”, though its coverage, constrained by print times, concentrated on India’s woes in the archery balanced with two pages on the old colonial power’s failure to overcome Senegal in the men’s football, under the headline “Senegal prick British balloon”.

The Indian Express thought the opening ceremomy “brilliant, cheeky too” while the Times of India thought London “presented a vibrant picture of Great Britain's rich heritage and culture”.
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Postby humphreys » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:51 pm

You could start an argument in an empty room, greeney.
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