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Here's atimeline of events based on a grand jury's findings. The guy had been under investigation for years, the university administration, local police agencies as well as the district attorney covered this up. Sandusky wasn't even on Joe Paterno's staff, the administration gave him keys and let him run amok on their campus. They wanted Paterno gone and used this as a political tool to get rid of him and tried to assign blame to him. In essence, to draw attention away from themselves.

All in vein, by the way, as lawsuits are being filed against them anyway and rightly so. I hope other suits are filed against the law enforcement agencies as well since they enabled this monster to continue molesting and ruining the lives of these young men. I do believe McQueary went to the police, probably because he was unsatisfied with the administrations inaction, and is the reason he has been "let go". I also believe that the reason Joe Paterno was ruled out as a target by investigators is because he did the right thing.

greeney2 wrote:All the people involved made a decision to keep this quiet, placing the university, its football, local revenue, and reputation of the school first over taking a child molester off the streets. When you think about it, the coverup is just as dispicable as any of the pedifile priest coverups, that everyone has no sympathy for, but when its for the almighty weekend football game, thats different. I would love to be a fly on the wall with the University dean, the alumni, chamber of commerce, all deciding they could handle it privately with Sandusky, becasue the scandel would ruin the town and university.

I agree. I think the investigation will expose everyone involved, at least I hope so.

He did the right thing "kind of", as if this were some simple violation of employee rules where managment or one of higher authority should have taken it to the higher ups. However this is not a minor employee issue, this is a major felony crime, and they all went along with keeping it quiet in some degree. Like I stated earlier, I wish I could have been a fly on the wall, from the Dean to the Mayor and chief of police, heads of the Chamber of Commerce, talking how this would wipe out the town with scandal. Reminds me of the Mayor in Jaws who would not close the beaches.

agreed and if this involved one boy i am sure it involved others...that man was alone with boys..showered with boys..and everyone knew what he was and let it go on..
regardless..
RIP Joe

Lots of good points, I agree with most. My thing with Joe was the fact that he didn't do more after first hearing of the incident in the shower.............maybe he didn't know what to do, how best to handle it...........who knows?

The thing in short is simple in the end..........Joe's remorse was evident in his last interview, he sounded like a broken man...I give him credit for facing the fire in the end, even it was a day late and a dollar short..

It's certainly no excuse but I do believe that Joe may have been out of touch for a long time, especially near the end....He just seemed a bit off to me.

Cole

JoePa did what we had to do, he reported the crime. Those who did not investigate further should be held responsible. Paterno may have said he should have done more, but most people would have handled the situation the same way.

If anyone in this forum heard that a co-worker was a child molester, I'm sure we would all report it. But after that, wouldn't you have faith that your HR department was the experts on these sorts of matters? would you keep pressing the issue? Especially if your co-worker was politically connected? NO, because you would be afraid you would get fired and/or you would question if the rumors were true. In retrospect, of course Paterno thinks he should have done more... because now he knows it is true.

It was not his position to go any further. Besides; he did not witness anything himself, it was all hear-say. So for him to approach someone or take matters in his own hands is way beyond the call of his duty. The guilty parties are probably still employed... disgusting

What they did to him was wrong; He was a good person. R.I.P. Joe

I think when emotion is set aside, then things become much clearer. He's, he was and always will be Joe Paterno....there will never be another, most coaches are lucky to last 10 years before burnout takes complete hold......

In this case Joe was larger than life in State College, no way he's EVER fired for doing anything legally or morally correct when dealing with the likes of Sandusky. NEVER.......

And if he was fired for dealing with someone who was later proved in a court of law to be a child molesting scum then his lawsuit for unlawful dismissal would dwarf any other in history, especially in the court of public opinion.

No........it's more likely that his telling his superiors and then leaving it there without ever following up was his very biggest mistake, not to mention seeing Sandusky around campus and doing nothing further about it.....

No something more was afoot at Penn State, I'll always say that. The dots that can so easily be connected scream loud and clear of a possible cover-up which led to the possible abuse of others who may have been spared had JoePa done more than simply passing the buck..

He knew that before he died, and somewhere he knows it now!

Cole

Had to search for this thread, is had moved back many pages. Sandusky as we have all herd by now was convicted on 45 of the 48 counts, handcuffed and taken into custody. They have already said he will die in jail, and facing a possible 442 year sentence. If that is all not shocking enough, yesterday Sandusky's stepson Matt, issued a statement, "he was abused by his stepfather, and was willing to testify," however the defense had rested, but were told the State would have another surprize whitness. His son Matt is now a 33 year old man, and he did not attend the verdict today.

I'm very sure Joe Paterna if alive, would have been greatly affected by this verdict, and hearing of so many victims who testified and were credible, as the truth came out. It would have been a real dose of reality if he though he had not done enough as it was, that the magnatude of this, was of epic porportion. God help any of these city officials, University officials, State officals who knew of this and conspired to let it be left alone, hush it up and it would go away.

I'm not sure if that conspiracy happened or not, but if it did, and they knew Sandusky was a pedifile, and seen with a minor boy, that is obstruction of justice. I'm not sure if the victims, now knowing how many others were victims, and knowing it was covered up, may now sue everyone from the State down to the University, and local Police. Especially if they became victims, after the date he as caught in the shower.

My observations of Sandusky, and Mrs. Sandusky were that he was totally oblivious to his actions, and she did not have a clue.

Sandusky is under suicide watch, and being review for his mental and physical condition. They say he will be in the gerneral population of 18-79 year olds, until he ages out of that, and they move him to a prison for older men, at that age.

Its just beginned for him. He will be forced to do sexual abuse thearpy in prison. 4 more victims have come forward in addition to his step son a few days ago. they expect civil suits to begin, and Mrs Sandusky has hired a lawyer. Before its over, civil suits will probably take everything they have. I'm guessing that, like OJ Simpson, certain assets will not be able to be touched, forinstance his pension from Penn State will probably protect her, and I doubt if they can attach things like Social Security Benifits. OJ had a NFL pension of over $200,000 per year, which Goldman could not attach. My gut feeling is that Mrs. Sandusky, maybe knows a lot more than she has let on, and maybe knew about the Son's abuse a long time ago. Maybe just closed her eyes to it all, they both seemed totally oblivous, like nothings wrong, no clue. They certainly are having a reality check right now.

The sad truth is coming out, and Joe was part of the cover up. How humaine was all of this to the boy in the shower, and to victims after?


Joe Paterno Reportedly Played Major Role in Penn State Cover-Up
By Connor Simpson | The Atlantic Wire – Sat, Jun 30, 2012EmailShare0PrintRelated ContentJoe Paterno Reportedly Played Major …
CNN have reportedly been informed of the contents of emails between top Penn State officials that allege a cover-up of a 2001 incident involving Jerry Sandusky, and the messages seem to implicate that it was Joe Paterno's idea to not report Sandusky.

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Earlier this month, news broke that emails existed between former Penn State President Graham Spanier, Vice President Gary Schultz and athletic director Tim Curley were aware of a 2001 incident between Sanducky and a child, and that they decided it would be "humane" to not report Sandusky to authorities.

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The emails reportedly never mention Sandusky by name, instead referring to him as "the subject" or "the person." The first email, sent 16 days after Mike McQueary reported witnessing Sandusky in the shower with a boy, was from Vice President Schultz to athletic director Curley explaining the plan was to "talk with the subject [Sandusky]... contact the charitable organization [Second Mile]... and contacting the Department of Welfare."

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But, a few days later, Curley apparently wrote this in an email to President Spanier:

"After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe [Paterno] yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps. I am having trouble with going to everyone, but the person involved. I would be more comfortable meeting with the person.. tell him the information we received... and tell him we are aware of the first situation."

They develop a plan to deal with the problem in house, to tell Sandusky there's a problem and offer professional help. Curley writes in an email that if Sandusky cooperates, they'd be willing to work with him. If not, they'd have to inform Second Mile and the Department of Welfare. Former university President Spanier was supportive of the new idea, but was also aware how bad it would be if people found out they didn't report Sandusky:

"The only downside for us is if the message isn't 'heard' and acted upon, and we become vulnerable for not having reported it. But that can be assessed down the road."

It was in that same email that Spanier used "humane" to describe the way they were planning on handling the situation. All three men have been fired from Penn State, but Schultz and Curley could face perjury charges for lying to the grand jury if these allegations are true. Besides Spanier's acknowledging how awful it is that they didn't report Sandusky abuse, the emails will hit Paterno's legacy the hardest if it's true the university decided to not go to authorities after a conversation he had with Tim Curley. Watch the full CNN report here:

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it's all awful..this kind of crap goes on all over the place, though..I still await the Boy Scouts big scandal..as I am sure it will happen, eventually...